Also One night at McCools does some interesting POV stuff.....
films about 1 event/day told from POV of characters seperately
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Will Vincent said:
Love Actually is an excellent example of having too many intersecting stories thus elliminating any real character involvement from the audience. Sorry, I can not stand that movie, just had to make that known now and forever.
Poke
PS We would never elect Billy Bob Thorton, especially since he split with ol' big lips.
Nique Zoolio said:
Well, it's not like you're gonna just cut and paste your story into another films framework.. I hope
So, whether the case study is exactly what you're looking for or not.. movies with multiple POV should be helpful.. even if they cover different events and multiple days. At the very least they should give you some ideas about how to handle the multiple POVs. Good luck Nique. 
Will Vincent said:Well, it's not like you're gonna just cut and paste your story into another films framework.. I hope
Will, you really are quite the salesman.
i'm sold! i will watch it again.I am not intending to copy + paste, its just that i want to see these films with a similar idea, to make sure that mine is different - i hate it when you find out what you have is nothing or its been done before
, and i just want to make sure this time.cheers for the help, nique.
Poke said:
I will join you in that one Poke. You are not alone. It was all just alot of fluff.
If I may retort though, I think that Curtis did well to involve the audience in his format. Usually the watcher of a 'rom-com' is desperate to get involved with the characters - and i think he took this as a given.
he did well to elicit our sympathies though (the ??laura linney?? character and her brother) in the limited amount of time he had. I don't think his primary aim was for us to truly connect, but to do so on a very thin level, and thats why the characters were such 'catch-all' creations.
zoolio
See it wasn't that I didn't like the characters, I just didn't get enough of the ones I truly liked - the Laura Linney story, the Hugh Grant (and super hot Martine McCutcheon) story and the Liam Neeson story. Maybe that was the point, to give that "thin" connection you spoke of, but I just didn't like that.
Poke
Poke
Nique: I'm glad you didn't take offense that that... Reading it again I sound kind of... prickish. I guess that's what typing while half asleep does to me. There are certain parts of the Love Actually story that I would have liked to see more of, definately.. BUT, I very much liked the movie, I'm a sucker for romantic comedy though, it is my favorite genre. That makes me sound like such a weenie, but I don't care!
On the other hand, I would have been happy to watch the Portugese girl prance around the screen for a couple hours, but um. nevermind.
As for the good salesman thing.. hmm I dunno about that so much, but hey, if it's true... I should do well in the 'Hollywood System'..
On the other hand, I would have been happy to watch the Portugese girl prance around the screen for a couple hours, but um. nevermind.
As for the good salesman thing.. hmm I dunno about that so much, but hey, if it's true... I should do well in the 'Hollywood System'..
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Poke said:
I know what you mean. It all felt too contrived, which admittedly is what drama is, but not in a seductive and charming way - rather in an insulting way toward the viewer - suggesting that all we need is a typical character, a hook for them (p.m or working class lass) and thats it, then nothing more is offered.
shame. i felt it alienated me from both myself as viewer and the characters, leaving me in a very undesired limbo.
but i'm ok now
I am not the kind of person to take offense to what people say to me - its more what i say to myself that gets me going. you didn't sound prickish at all, you felt you had a good point to make and pressed to make it - and did - characteristics that work wonders in this business they tell me.
and i'm glad you made the point, its been helpful. ta
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Wonderland
It came out in 2003. I've seen it and enjoyed it. I didn't think it was groundbreaking and there are things about it that I don't like, but overall - it was watchable. It's pretty much what you're looking for, I think. I'm stunned that nobody else here mentioned it.
heres a link to it on IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335563...uZGVybGFORHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=74;fm=1
And here are some summaries of the film from IMDB:
On the afternoon of July 1, 1981, Los Angeles police responded to a distress call at 8763 Wonderland Avenue in Laurel Canyon and discovered a grisly quadruple homicide. Ron Launius (Lucas), Billy Deverell (Nelson), Barbara Richardson (Wagner) and Joy Miller (Garofalo) were found brutally murdered, bludgeoned to death with a pipe, and Launius's wife, Susan (Applegate), was left in critical condition. The police investigation that followed--led by detectives Sam Nico (Levine), Louis Cruz (Frankie G. ) and Mike Peters (Gainey) --would unearth a seedy world of drugs and violence, ultimately revealing a motley crew from L. A. 's underbelly including ex-con David Lind (McDermott), nightclub impresario Eddie Nash (Bogosian), and porn legend John Holmes (Kilmer) as well as Holmes's estranged wife Sharon (Kudrow) and his teenage lover Dawn Schiller (Bosworth).
Summary written by Lions Gate
John Holmes was a legend of the porn industry and revered in circles as a stud. But years after his successful career and star fading, Holmes was a desperate man with his own internal demons to live up to. He's estranged from his wife, holding onto a relationship with his teenage mistress, and living as a junkie in search of his next fix. But one fateful night left four people dead and John as a key suspect in one of the most grisly murders in Los Angeles. Was he partly responsible for what happened at Wonderland Avenue?
Summary written by monkeykingma
The movie looks at the events that led up to the infamous Wonderland Murders in Los Angeles in July, 1981, as well as the investigation. What is known for sure is that 4 people were murdered in their Wonderland Avenue apartment, apparently as retaliation for their robbery of a notorious L.A. nightclub magnate. What is not known is what part porn star John Holmes played in the murders. The police investigation relies on the testimony of two men: Holmes himself, and a biker who took part in the robbery, whose girlfriend was one of the victims. The biker says Holmes had to have taken part directly in the murders (and, in fact, his palm print was found at the crime scene). However, Holmes claims that he only set up the robbery and the hit, but wasn't in the apartment at the time of the murders. Now the police are caught in a dilemma. But whom are they supposed to believe: a biker with a heroin habit who has a personal ax to grind against Holmes, or a porn star with a notorious cocaine habit who is also known in many circles as a pathological liar?
Summary written by jgp3553@yahoo.com
It came out in 2003. I've seen it and enjoyed it. I didn't think it was groundbreaking and there are things about it that I don't like, but overall - it was watchable. It's pretty much what you're looking for, I think. I'm stunned that nobody else here mentioned it.
heres a link to it on IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335563...uZGVybGFORHxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=74;fm=1
And here are some summaries of the film from IMDB:
On the afternoon of July 1, 1981, Los Angeles police responded to a distress call at 8763 Wonderland Avenue in Laurel Canyon and discovered a grisly quadruple homicide. Ron Launius (Lucas), Billy Deverell (Nelson), Barbara Richardson (Wagner) and Joy Miller (Garofalo) were found brutally murdered, bludgeoned to death with a pipe, and Launius's wife, Susan (Applegate), was left in critical condition. The police investigation that followed--led by detectives Sam Nico (Levine), Louis Cruz (Frankie G. ) and Mike Peters (Gainey) --would unearth a seedy world of drugs and violence, ultimately revealing a motley crew from L. A. 's underbelly including ex-con David Lind (McDermott), nightclub impresario Eddie Nash (Bogosian), and porn legend John Holmes (Kilmer) as well as Holmes's estranged wife Sharon (Kudrow) and his teenage lover Dawn Schiller (Bosworth).
Summary written by Lions Gate
John Holmes was a legend of the porn industry and revered in circles as a stud. But years after his successful career and star fading, Holmes was a desperate man with his own internal demons to live up to. He's estranged from his wife, holding onto a relationship with his teenage mistress, and living as a junkie in search of his next fix. But one fateful night left four people dead and John as a key suspect in one of the most grisly murders in Los Angeles. Was he partly responsible for what happened at Wonderland Avenue?
Summary written by monkeykingma
The movie looks at the events that led up to the infamous Wonderland Murders in Los Angeles in July, 1981, as well as the investigation. What is known for sure is that 4 people were murdered in their Wonderland Avenue apartment, apparently as retaliation for their robbery of a notorious L.A. nightclub magnate. What is not known is what part porn star John Holmes played in the murders. The police investigation relies on the testimony of two men: Holmes himself, and a biker who took part in the robbery, whose girlfriend was one of the victims. The biker says Holmes had to have taken part directly in the murders (and, in fact, his palm print was found at the crime scene). However, Holmes claims that he only set up the robbery and the hit, but wasn't in the apartment at the time of the murders. Now the police are caught in a dilemma. But whom are they supposed to believe: a biker with a heroin habit who has a personal ax to grind against Holmes, or a porn star with a notorious cocaine habit who is also known in many circles as a pathological liar?
Summary written by jgp3553@yahoo.com
Wonderland, yes! You know, I kept seeing Val Kilmer with that John Holmes hairdo and wondering what movie that was.
Good call. The DVD has a very interesting doc on the supplemental disc about Holmes's career.
Poke
Good call. The DVD has a very interesting doc on the supplemental disc about Holmes's career.
Poke
GREATwarEAGLE said:Wonderland
It came out in 2003. I've seen it and enjoyed it. I didn't think it was groundbreaking and there are things about it that I don't like, but overall - it was watchable. It's pretty much what you're looking for, I think. I'm stunned that nobody else here mentioned it.
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thank you very much great war eagle
that is stonking stuff! sounds like this is the film that i have to ensure i am different to - thanks for the post, very kind of you - this helps alot.
well played
directorik said:
did you buy them? what did you think? i like the look of them, sound right up my alley, and i always enjoyed hemmingway in spurts - its just so darn expensive.....was it worth it?
thanks