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Old 09-22-2011, 09:12 PM   #1
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speed of light? bah!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8...-of-light.html

Wow. If they can verify these results, this changes EVERYTHING. And also explains some of the crazy behaviour of neutrinos. This is an AWESOME time to be alive!

And while we're at it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...quantum_noise/
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:23 PM   #2
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8...-of-light.html

Wow. If they can verify these results, this changes EVERYTHING. And also explains some of the crazy behaviour of neutrinos. This is an AWESOME time to be alive!

And while we're at it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...quantum_noise/
Yep. Reality just got stood on its head. A true WTF moment.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:28 PM   #3
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If they can verify these results
That's quite a press release to put out, without verification.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:35 PM   #4
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Uhhh.... errrr... mmm... wwwhhhh... BLAMMO!
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:52 PM   #5
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That's quite a press release to put out, without verification.
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The timing of these two news releases seems oddly coincidental!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_954836.html
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:24 PM   #7
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The timing of these two news releases seems oddly coincidental!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_954836.html
A forum member's buddy has a pair

http://www.indietalk.com/showthread.php?t=34435
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:28 PM   #8
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Why is that even news?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:33 PM   #9
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MDM, even according to your link, a tacheon is hypothetical!

I love sci-fi, but we're talking actual science.

I'm wondering if this news is going to affect the market-value of DeLoreans.
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Old 09-22-2011, 11:32 PM   #10
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I remember seeing a demo video on a tachyon in my college's planetarium when I was back in college in the early 1980s. We also read about them in Physics class.

So, pardon me for not being amazed.
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Cold Fusion anyone?
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Tachyons are interesting, but again, no experimental evidence for them has been found. Entirely hypothetical at this point. Doesn't stop the new age-rs though; I remember seeing glass "Tachyon beads" in catalogs back in the early 90s. Supposed to make you more attuned to the universe or some such rot. I always found that one particularly funny! Anyway, proving the existance of tachyons would be news as big as this.

Cold Fusion also looks promising these days. There's some stuff going on at the National Ignition Facility (https://lasers.llnl.gov/about/) using lasers to create fusion. That's still a ways off though. There's also the Energy Catalyzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer) which has all the markings of a hoax, but it IS performing. I believe one can be skeptical and excited at the same time.

The really big aspect of the neutrino experiment is the potential for growth to a new field of physics. Just as relativity expanded the world described in newtonian physics, we will need new physics to expand relativity. Again, this experiment needs to be replicated elsewhere (I think there's a collider in New Mexico that comes close to the tech at CERN), and we're not anywhere near the tech to manipulate it, but there's potential here. No amount of skepticism can extinguish the excitement of the idea of our view of the universe changing! It's like being in the room when string theory first came about (another concept of which there is no experimental evidence). I wish Richard Feynman was around to see this!

Oh, yeah, and we found water on the moon too.
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I remember seeing a demo video on a tachyon in my college's planetarium when I was back in college in the early 1980s. We also read about them in Physics class.

So, pardon me for not being amazed.
I'm heard lectures explaining how time travel might work but the moment they actually build a Tardis I'll piss my pants.
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The interesting paradox here is the closer an object gets to approaching the speed of light as it travels, the more it will condense and implode. Once it goes faster than light, the particles can move apart.
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