View Full Version : Another advertisement, who wants to be in it folks?


Papertwinproductions
10-03-2010, 06:13 PM
Here comes a regular, callin' out your name.

EDIT:

So, to save those newcomers to the thread, alot has changed. It's now concerning two submissions from ourselves, and Wheatgrinder.

Wheatgrinders Submission.
http://www.poptent.net/media/20730

Papertwinproductions Submission

http://www.poptent.net/media/24382

NickClapper
10-03-2010, 06:14 PM
Gladly :D

What sort of quality are we looking at? Do I have to whip out the T2i or can I just use my Handicam?

Papertwinproductions
10-03-2010, 06:16 PM
I was just about to edit that into my post.

Quality is not of the issue, whatever you see fit and can indeed manage is perfectly fine. Aslong as you have fun with it, whatever you use is good with us.

Another member of the Pistachio smashing Society, welcome, take your shoes off at the door.

wheatgrinder
10-05-2010, 04:59 PM
am I too late? where do I join up?

wheatgrinder
10-05-2010, 05:06 PM
oh.. here is the other side of your slogan....

Pastaicos.. get crackin'.. its worth it!

Papertwinproductions
10-05-2010, 05:24 PM
am I too late? where do I join up?

You are certainly not too late. I'd be honoured if you where to take part.

Zensteve
10-05-2010, 07:50 PM
Slogan: D'ese nuts - your mouth.

How many segments can you squeeze into a 15 second block? Cutting the war-cries together like the "Wassuuuuuup?!" guys?

Murdock
10-05-2010, 07:52 PM
Someone should crush nutz with balls. bawseballs basketballs BOWLING balls

wheatgrinder
10-05-2010, 11:01 PM
I had two ideas on the way home, I almost want to make my own 15 second spot! But ill still participate in yours!

One idea is a MACRO close up of a nut in one of my rather techy-retro vices I have ( both literal and figurative, hehe ) instead of yelling, Im whispering.. as I CRANK the screw until the nut cracks.. filmed right this could be intense.. no Pistachios right now or I would have done it already!

Papertwinproductions
10-06-2010, 06:27 AM
Slogan: D'ese nuts - your mouth.

How many segments can you squeeze into a 15 second block? Cutting the war-cries together like the "Wassuuuuuup?!" guys?

I'm hoping to have 10 seconds for the quick-fire segmants, as the end will be of an elderly woman accompanied by the brand logo, simply cracking it open in a less destructive manner. 10 of 15 slots is the target. As of now, i'm wondering whether to accompany it with a faint orchestra track in the background.

Wheat, that's brilliant! Would you like me to PM you the link to the website?

Harp
10-06-2010, 06:37 AM
Do you have music yet? I'm not a film maker, but would like to participate.

Papertwinproductions
10-06-2010, 06:48 AM
Do you have music yet? I'm not a film maker, but would like to participate.

We do have a few composers on our books, who we've worked with for a while, so there'll be our prime candidates. I assume you're a composer?

wheatgrinder
10-06-2010, 04:58 PM
papertwin.. your old land gave me a funny idea..

An old lady takes our her false teeth and uses em like a table top nut cracker (maybe with a hammer) to crack open the nut, then puts em back in to eat it. Do this with OUT showing the ugly bits...

Papertwinproductions
10-06-2010, 05:05 PM
papertwin.. your old land gave me a funny idea..

An old lady takes our her false teeth and uses em like a table top nut cracker (maybe with a hammer) to crack open the nut, then puts em back in to eat it. Do this with OUT showing the ugly bits...

Such a nut lover is she, that the evidence lies in petruding gums and missing teeth. So eager to crack open those nuts with that hammer.

Finishing with a close-up, the chagrin gap-toothed smile.

NickClapper
10-06-2010, 06:23 PM
Is there a deadline you need these by?

I'm also suffering from a barren period in my pistachio consumption.

Harp
10-06-2010, 10:37 PM
We do have a few composers on our books, who we've worked with for a while, so there'll be our prime candidates. I assume you're a composer?

Yes, I am. http://www.harpstringproductions.com/sample-audio.html if you're interested.

wheatgrinder
10-07-2010, 12:48 AM
papertwin captured my imagination on this one.. I signed up to do my own commercial. Wrote a script and am looking for an actor and maybe a crew head. Hopefully shoot this Saturday.

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 02:13 AM
Is there a deadline you need these by?

I'm also suffering from a barren period in my pistachio consumption.

Eight days my good man.

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 02:19 AM
papertwin captured my imagination on this one.. I signed up to do my own commercial. Wrote a script and am looking for an actor and maybe a crew head. Hopefully shoot this Saturday.

Be sure to submit your video as soon as you can, there's been cases where people have missed out due to traffic on the site in the last couple hours of submission.

If you do have any problems, just let the guys know and they're happy to sort it out for you.

wheatgrinder
10-07-2010, 12:32 PM
seems like a good crew running that site. Looking forward to see how it goes. (Of course Ill win the $5K, but thats to be expected!) :)

ROC
10-07-2010, 12:46 PM
papertwin captured my imagination on this one.. I signed up to do my own commercial. Wrote a script and am looking for an actor and maybe a crew head. Hopefully shoot this Saturday.

If I do the audio you give me 500$? :)

EDIT: NO, SCRATCH THAT, I WANT HALF THE EARNINGS BECAUSE SOUND IS HALF THE EXPERIENCE.

Is this that airy-fairy poptent site?

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 01:06 PM
If I do the audio you give me 500$? :)

EDIT: NO, SCRATCH THAT, I WANT HALF THE EARNINGS BECAUSE SOUND IS HALF THE EXPERIENCE.

Is this that airy-fairy poptent site?

You do know, Mr.ROC. I'll pay through the nose for your ears, in the coming years. Yet, prior to our masterpiece, i'm wanting the worlds most thorough critique on the next short.

I'll borrow you my top-hat to sweeten the deal.

ROC
10-07-2010, 01:24 PM
Bah humbug. Where is your next short? Where's your last short?

Are you working with Wheat on this thing?

Let me in!

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 01:38 PM
Bah humbug. Where is your next short? Where's your last short?

Are you working with Wheat on this thing?

Let me in!

I'm working on the same assignment as is Wheat, I have two pieces of material, one which a few of the IT crowd are helping me with, Wheat included, who is also working on his own submission.

As for our next short, you'll be seeing it mid November, followed by a flurry of shorts come to think of it. We're busy, but it's great.

Here's the link for the last ad we put together.

http://www.poptent.net/media/14908

Here is a low-budget short we put together, nothing strenious. You would have loved to get your hands on this sucker for sound, i'm sure. We used the internal mic, forgive. This feels like a life time ago. Oh how we've grown...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0lHJE2BpA

ROC
10-07-2010, 01:54 PM
Do people actually win from that site?

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 01:57 PM
Do people actually win from that site?

Indeed, the assignment is assured with a "Guaranteed Purchase".

ROC
10-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Bah. I'll believe it when we win.

p.s. I had a bad experience with poptent but now one of the founders of it loves me.

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 02:44 PM
Bah. I'll believe it when we win.

p.s. I had a bad experience with poptent but now one of the founders of it loves me.

Well, i hope the waters have settled. Now it's time for coffee, you're buying.

Dreadylocks
10-07-2010, 02:47 PM
Yeah if you want to win anything on poptent, I would get really active in their community. They seem to play favorites, at least for the 'editor's choice' awards.

And good luck!

If I can come up with something I'll film it for ya :)

Papertwinproductions
10-07-2010, 02:57 PM
Yeah if you want to win anything on poptent, I would get really active in their community. They seem to play favorites, at least for the 'editor's choice' awards.



We did gain a "Honorable mention" on our first outing, although that didn't entail a cash prize. :no:

Brilliant. I'll be sure to post the finished product, don't you be wearing no penguin tuxedo! I know you Chicaaaarrgo folk.

wheatgrinder
10-07-2010, 04:24 PM
@ROC -> Whada ya mean "we" kemosabe? :)

@Dreadylocks : Let the schmooze-fest begin!

ROC
10-07-2010, 06:48 PM
:mope:

Dreadylocks
10-07-2010, 06:55 PM
:mope:

What's the matter li'l' fella?

ROC
10-07-2010, 07:23 PM
http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=3935http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=3916http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=3932

I'm torn into 3 pieces hehe. By angry birds!

:(

Dreadylocks
10-07-2010, 08:04 PM
I don't get it...

but don't be sad!

ROC
10-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Ok...

http://www.smileys4me.com/getsmiley.php?show=3684

wheatgrinder
10-08-2010, 01:21 AM
Im only playin... you can be in the club.. but there are certain legal ramifications...

ROC
10-08-2010, 01:22 AM
Wha?

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 09:37 AM
Nick Clapper, Wheatgrinder. There's no need to worry about recording a clip for us, the material has taken another narrative. Apologies for the fuss, if there has been any caused guys.

We will have the finished ad up within a day or so. I'll post the link here, as you're unable to embed the video.

I'm exhausted. Increasingly lame. :(

NickClapper
10-12-2010, 09:40 AM
That's good news because I was feeling terrible about forgetting about this... :P

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 09:45 AM
That's good news because I was feeling terrible about forgetting about this... :P

That's a relief, i've been out of the picture for a few days, so i was hoping that neither of you had started yet.

Thanks for considering participating, be it if it materialised or not.

wheatgrinder
10-12-2010, 12:51 PM
Same thing PTP, I got so excited (read that as obsessed) about my own "get crackin" project, that Iv not had time for yours yet.. though I was going to do something fun with the green screen, sledge hammer, and a bag of nuts this evening!

You'd better get on it.. Iv been watching for you upload!

ROC
10-12-2010, 12:52 PM
Who wants to split a 15K prize if I do the sound?

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Same thing PTP, I got so excited (read that as obsessed) about my own "get crackin" project, that Iv not had time for yours yet.. though I was going to do something fun with the green screen, sledge hammer, and a bag of nuts this evening!

You'd better get on it.. Iv been watching for you upload!

The edit is almost complete, we should have the spot uploaded for tonight, possibly tomorrow morning. How long until we see your upload, my good man?

ROC, interesting. What assignment have you got in mind?

ROC
10-12-2010, 01:05 PM
Any one of them.

I've watched some of their entries and we could blow them out of the water (you wheat and I)

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 01:14 PM
Any one of them.

I've watched some of their entries and we could blow them out of the water (you wheat and I)

Pending on the brand, I'd love to put something together with you both. I believe it's every couple weeks that new assignments are introduced. We'll talk for sure, ROC.

ROC
10-12-2010, 01:20 PM
lol and Wheat - if they ever do a Tilamook spot or anything to do with Oregon, you and I baby.

wheatgrinder
10-12-2010, 02:23 PM
@ ROC :) Heck yeah! (also check PM)

@ Papertwinproductions (im too lazy to type that again, you are heretofore to be referred to as PTP! ) I uploaded my current SD version, as a hedge against not being able to upload the HD in time. (I want to make a few tweaks too)

Its pending approval now.

I note that about a hundred new folks took on the assignment over the weekend. Competition heating up?

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 02:36 PM
@ Papertwinproductions (im too lazy to type that again, you are heretofore to be referred to as PTP! ) I uploaded my current SD version, as a hedge against not being able to upload the HD in time. (I want to make a few tweaks too)

Its pending approval now.

I note that about a hundred new folks took on the assignment over the weekend. Competition heating up?

Brilliant. Let me know as of when it's approved.:D

It's always smart to put in a "Draft", you'll see this alot as Poptent have openely admitted that problems do occur come the final moments of submission. With your draft, they'll allow you-if your "Final cut" failed to upload- to submit it after deadline. Interestingly enough this won't apply if you do not have any material submitted prior to deadline. Yet, this is all depending on when the brand are going to be sent the spots.

Strangely, people tend to accept the assignment, never to submit their work. The lure of the cash-prize perhaps, but 100-200 submissions tend to be the regular.

How've you found working to such minimal time restraints?

EDIT: Clearly escaping me that you participated in a '48.

wheatgrinder
10-12-2010, 02:52 PM
@PTP,
Im still finding my way though "where film fits in my life". It seems that I have a "feel" for the short form, and an exteranly imposed deadline gets me off my back side and makes me move!

In short (pun loosely intended), I guess I like it.

wheatgrinder
10-12-2010, 02:57 PM
@ROC - Im excited for you to see my submission. I took the day off of work yesterday (vacation day) and recorded all my own sounds.. eating apples, scraping tools, making funny noises in the mic. It was great fun. I need to pull the music down in the mix, some of that gets lost, but you stil feel its there. Also, I still need a cloth pass, I ran out of time last night (literally nodding off at the computer) but like PTP says, for that site, its best to get a DRAFT submission in early, so they got what I had ready this morning.

EDIT: It would seem that it can be faster to make your own Foley\SFX rather than scour the internet looking for just the right sample.. whoda thunk it...

Papertwinproductions
10-12-2010, 02:59 PM
@PTP,
Im still finding my way though "where film fits in my life". It seems that I have a "feel" for the short form, and an exteranly imposed deadline gets me off my back side and makes me move!

In short (pun loosely intended), I guess I like it.

It's uncanny how quickly you adapt and improve. I forget who said it-another member of IT- but you seem to absorb every ounce of suggestion with ease.

wheatgrinder
10-12-2010, 05:28 PM
crud! I messed up the tag line VO. Ill fix it in the next revision, though I hope they don't BOUNCE my submission for it, deadline is too close.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:11 AM
crud! I messed up the tag line VO. Ill fix it in the next revision, though I hope they don't BOUNCE my submission for it, deadline is too close.

To the "Townhall"!

*Batman theme music*

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 12:28 PM
here is my submission:

http://www.poptent.net/media/20730

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 12:31 PM
here is my submission:

http://www.poptent.net/media/20730

Awesome. Nice work.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 12:34 PM
It's splendid, Wheat. You kept your concept underwraps, it surprised me.

The sound is brilliant, may i add. Our Gurus have taught you well, my friend.

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 12:51 PM
I have time for one more update.
suggestions ?(post only, too late for new shots, though I do have SOME coverage available)

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Yeah, the flow of the music doesn't really work for me. You mind if I take a stab at it? I've got the same music source as you, and editing music is something I think I'm pretty good at.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:09 PM
The score is too quaint in the first few seconds. The suspense feels contained as apposed to epic, given the situation and the time constraint, i believe the score should arrive with a firm hand.

With this, it would emphasize that stillness when disarming.

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:09 PM
Tick, tock, tick, tock...

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 01:16 PM
Yeah, the flow of the music doesn't really work for me. You mind if I take a stab at it? I've got the same music source as you, and editing music is something I think I'm pretty good at.

The deadline is so short, Id feel bad putting pressure on you to deliver something to me by tonight. The ending music (starting at the wire snip) is a file given as part of the assignment and is required to be used in the end tag movie.

Ill rework it though.. it feels a bit forced.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:21 PM
We're submitting tomorrow afternoon.

Wondering whether or not the 444 applicants will pile in at once...

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:21 PM
Are you kidding? It's ten seconds of music, and I'd be using canned music. Plus, you'd be under no obligation to use my music edit; I'd do it for fun. I would just need a copy of the video, sans music.

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 01:22 PM
The score is too quaint in the first few seconds. The suspense feels contained as apposed to epic, given the situation and the time constraint, i believe the score should arrive with a firm hand.

With this, it would emphasize that stillness when disarming.

I guess I messed up.. thanks for the feedback.

What I wanted to convey is that cracking the NUT is the important thing...

the disarming of the bomb is more like a "yeah, what ever, Ill disarm that bomb, I guess, if I have to... " so maybe a completely different music feel is required AFTER the nut is opened in that "ahhhhha" shot..

Something light and upbeat, popy? whada ya think?

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:22 PM
Papertwin, do we get to see yours tonight? Or tomorrow?

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 01:26 PM
@CF - I cant get you a custom file till tomorrow :-( .. Is there anyway you can just fake it along. The nice thing with "that site" video player is the time code display..during playback if you mouse over the video...

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:27 PM
Anyway, wheat, I don't wanna pressure you too much, so I'm gonna step away and play a little xbox. But I'm being sincere -- I'd do it simply for the fun of it, and wouldn't feel the slightest bit bad if you chose to use your own edit. But I happen to feel like this particular thing is something I'm good at, and I suspect you'd wanna go with mine. Offer's on the table; take it or leave it.

The video is very good, as is, so regardless...

EDIT: Oops, looks like I was typing while you were. Um, I'm just trying to figure out how I would get the video into my editing software, from that site. Anyway, I've got an xbox date (best friend/xbox rival). Talk to ya later.

EDIT PT 2: I see what you mean about maybe being able to do, just referencing the timecode. Maybe that's workable. I'll check it out after I whoop up my friend on the xbox.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:30 PM
I guess I messed up.. thanks for the feedback.

What I wanted to convey is that cracking the NUT is the important thing...

the disarming of the bomb is more like a "yeah, what ever, Ill disarm that bomb, I guess, if I have to... " so maybe a completely different music feel is required AFTER the nut is opened in that "ahhhhha" shot..

Something light and upbeat, popy? whada ya think?

Even more so, the music halting suddenly in the moment that the nut CRACKS!

You could try. It would be a nice juxtaposition given the circumstance. Although, again, it's tough with the time you have, if a Pop melody could deliver as an Orchestral track would.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:31 PM
Tomorrow, Cracker.

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:32 PM
Even more so, the music halting suddenly in the moment that the nut CRACKS!

That's pretty much what I had in mind, with a strong crescendo, lots of dissidence, cutting off just before the "crack". Then the music comes back strong with a big resolution.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:35 PM
That's pretty much what I had in mind, with a strong crescendo, lots of dissidence, cutting off just before the "crack". Then the music comes back strong with a big resolution.

Very much so, it seems fitting. What're you thinking, Wheat?

EDIT: We happened to change our track, after a huge mishap on our last Poptent venture. I'm sure they'd oblige, be it you've got material already submitted. As of when-if you do decide to change the track- the spot you have in place will stand as your current up until you submit the other when it will be replaced.

Buddy Greenfield
10-13-2010, 01:40 PM
I think the music is perfect myself. It’s slight fade-in/ semi understated nature gives it a subtle yet vital
“Already in progress” or “The continuing adventures of..” or pre-established (even genre pre established) feel which in that time span to me nails it.

-Thanks-

ROC
10-13-2010, 01:46 PM
lol is Wheat making a "The Nut Locker" spoof with disarming/opening a nut like Jeremy Renner?

Buddy Greenfield
10-13-2010, 01:49 PM
The Nut Locker :lol:

I like how the music continues after the disfusing too, lends a paraody of the genre or set-up feel that works.

-Thanks-

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 01:51 PM
That's pretty much what I had in mind, with a strong crescendo, lots of dissidence, cutting off just before the "crack". Then the music comes back strong with a big resolution.

Funny, thats exactly what I did.. Its just too low in the mix.. :)
the dissonant crescendo and everything..

I like the sound effect with the visual warp when we zoom in on the nut, but it seems to crowd out the silence.. Ill get a short (fraction of a second at this scale) complete silent beat after the "crack" and before the warp effect.

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 01:52 PM
lol is Wheat making a "The Nut Locker" spoof with disarming/opening a nut like Jeremy Renner?

Haven't seen it yet.. but "The Nut Locker" just sounds funny!

ROC
10-13-2010, 01:53 PM
Wheat, I loved it.

ROC
10-13-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't see the pistachio un-cracked - is it supposed to crack once you turned the thing around?

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 01:55 PM
Funny, thats exactly what I did.. Its just too low in the mix.. :)
the dissonant crescendo and everything..

Mmm, well, sort of. What I have in mind is similar, but perhaps it's in the excecution. Anyway, I'll shut up now.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 01:55 PM
I like the sound effect with the visual warp when we zoom in on the nut, but it seems to crowd out the silence.. Ill get a short (fraction of a second at this scale) complete silent beat after the "crack" and before the warp effect.

That sounds grand, Wheat. :cool:

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 02:02 PM
I don't see the pistachio un-cracked - is it supposed to crack once you turned the thing around?

So I have shots of it uncracked, but I thought that might blow the surprise..

oh its a nut that hes working on, not a bomb.. .. but I fail if I have to explain it!

I tried for an hour to get the NUT to crack in the vice for real.. it just sorta opens nicely.. I could try ONE MORE TIME.. or get a better set of closed \ open shots.

ROC
10-13-2010, 02:04 PM
oh LOL I thought it was a bomb. But, what do I know - I'm 19 and live in Michigan.

I think the effects are great, wheat.

Is that your voice?

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 02:08 PM
I'm 19 and live in Michigan.

I think the effects are great, wheat.

Is that your voice?

is that your new story?

Thats my voice, plus distortion, ring modulator, compressor and band pass EQ, im also the SQUELCH noise..

ROC
10-13-2010, 02:10 PM
Haha! I love it.

No, I'm just obsessed with the movie "Catfish".

Very nicely done. I hope you win!

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:14 PM
im also the SQUELCH noise..

:lol:

ROC, your vote of confidence is lacking a certain other candidate. :grumpy:

ROC
10-13-2010, 02:15 PM
wtf where's yours?

Sorry - didn't see this thread in a while - do I need to backtrack a lot?

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:17 PM
wtf where's yours?

Sorry - didn't see this thread in a while - do I need to backtrack a lot?

Tomorrow Afternoon, Sir.

ROC
10-13-2010, 02:17 PM
Ok - good.

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Ok - good.

:cool:

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 02:22 PM
@PTP - Yes its funny, but did you BUY it when you heard it? (the beep inside the squelch is from my touch tone phone by the way)

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 02:24 PM
Thanks Utopia for the free prestige your comments give me !

ROC
10-13-2010, 02:25 PM
How did you know it was me?

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:27 PM
@PTP - Yes its funny, but did you BUY it when you heard it? (the beep inside the squelch is from my touch tone phone by the way)

I did. Although i did wonder how you'd aquired such a sound, the image of you making the sound initially, is hilarous.

:lol:

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 02:44 PM
I would never have thought to do it that way, but last week I watched a bunch of youtube links either ROC or Alcove posted about sound.. and there was this AWESOME Foley artists and in the middle of his HUGE studio etc. . hes making WIND noises, like my mom telling a scary story. and its the wind used in a movie I recognized.. so why not squelch..

Papertwinproductions
10-13-2010, 02:49 PM
I would never have thought to do it that way, but last week I watched a bunch of youtube links either ROC or Alcove posted about sound.. and there was this AWESOME Foley artists and in the middle of his HUGE studio etc. . hes making WIND noises, like my mom telling a scary story. and its the wind used in a movie I recognized.. so why not squelch..

It's a valid technique, my legitimate sound capabilities are benign, however.

There was a great link posted by Alcove, on body enhancement in post. That's worth a watch if you haven't yet seen it.

ROC
10-13-2010, 03:08 PM
I would never have thought to do it that way, but last week I watched a bunch of youtube links either ROC or Alcove posted about sound.. and there was this AWESOME Foley artists and in the middle of his HUGE studio etc. . hes making WIND noises, like my mom telling a scary story. and its the wind used in a movie I recognized.. so why not squelch..

That was me.

wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 03:41 PM
that posted the video or did the foley wind noises?

ROC
10-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Posted the Soundworks profile of the foley artist who works for WB.

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 04:29 PM
Ok wheat, I messed around with it a bit. I think I could do much better if I had your audio track, cuz that needs to match, as well. Anyway, it's not surprising that yours and my treatment of it are pretty darn similar -- I mean we're not exactly trying to re-invent the wheel here. But here's what I had in mind --

It's not just that your crescendo got lost in the mix, it was way too brief. When I mentioned a crescendo, I meant, like for the whole beginning, and make it big. And when I mentioned a resolution, I mean, like a proper ending, whereas yours just fades back in with the same music loop as before. It needs a big ending, in my opinion.

If you like this, I'd be happy to re-cut it, when you're able to get me the audio track. Or, if you wanna just leave it at this, as me using this cut to show an example of what I recommend, that's cool, too. I just thought it'd be fun to toss my hat in the mix.

Papertwin, same offer goes to you. Whether you want big orchestral stuff like this, or pop music, I'd be happy to mess around with it, and for such a short clip, this takes no time at all.

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 04:30 PM
Oops, forgot to link it.

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wheatgrinder
10-13-2010, 04:47 PM
can you email\upload the music only track? Let me mix it in.

Thanks

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 04:54 PM
can you email\upload the music only track? Let me mix it in.

Thanks

Gladly. But there's the question of the ticking clock (the biggest issue to match up), as well as the VO and sound effects -- all of which have a rythm and need to match the music. I'll check your member contact info for your email, but if it's not there, PM me with it.

Cracker Funk
10-13-2010, 04:58 PM
Nevermind, I just realized I can do one of those file-share things. I'll PM you the link.

Papertwinproductions
10-14-2010, 07:14 AM
I believe our material isn't to have a score, but thank you all the same, Cracker.

Also, I've changed the initial thread, so that those newcomers can see both Wheatgrinders, and our spots-When we submit- without scouring the early pages that are currently irrelevant with the changes.

Cracker Funk
10-14-2010, 07:22 AM
No score?! Heresy, I say. Heresy!

Papertwinproductions
10-14-2010, 07:26 AM
We've got our Foley artist working on Sound, with alot to work with from our recordist. A score just seems out of context for the material.

Any other time, there'd be a score. :)

Cracker Funk
10-14-2010, 07:34 AM
I was just kidding, of course. One of the most important decisions, regarding music, is when not to use it. I can't wait to see your submission.

Papertwinproductions
10-14-2010, 07:48 AM
Likewise, I'm awaiting the call to say it's good to go.

It won't be long before i post our next work, a music video for the icelandic band "Múm". Of course not legitimately, one of us loves the track, we thought we'd put something together while we location scout for the next short.

Moving cities is tough, location wise anyhow.

Buddy Greenfield
10-14-2010, 10:48 AM
I’d like to see it (Cracker edit) mixed with the video and rest of the sounds proper. (Do you mean it would be over Wheat’s music?)

Right now (to me) it’s like the stabs are punctuating and driving towards a dead end, or pushing it towards an implied meaning or resolution that isn’t there, like:
Whirrrrrl- It-! Helps-! It-! To-! Not-! Add-! Up-!, where as Wheat’s creates more of the typical or parodied atmosphere of that diffusing set-up, more of selling the same old same of the set-up than a resolution to it.

If you added an explosion and the pistachio package shaking at the end, then you would have some resolution to the stabs, especially if it’s like a musical rest then the final stab, like:
dunt! dunt! dunt! dunt! dunt!….Wonderful pistachios, get crackin’ DUNT! (with the explosion),
but right now (to me) it comes across as trying to turn loud into story, but without the whole thing as one, and to the actual video it's hard to say what it might be like in whole.

The stabs are nice sounding though.

-Thanks-

wheatgrinder
10-14-2010, 10:54 AM
Thanks CF. You inspired me, but I did do my OWN thing.

In particular you inspired me to think about the tick as an instrument, rather than a sound design element. So in this draft, if you listen to the tic you here its more PLAYING along with the music...

I think Buddy is getting my point, the resolution is NOT the defusing the bomb, its getting the nut.. the hero saves the day anyway.....

here check it out.. Iv not submitted this as a draft yet I have a bit more time.

Also, the low end is HUGE in this mix.. let me know if its TOO big .. I like it.. but Im a bass player so.. meh..

http://www.poptent.net/media/20730

Buddy Greenfield
10-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Audio style aside (Could be a billion ways)

I really like the white look and lighting. It's very fresh and advertising slick.
Kind of let's the product own that shade of color instead of the lighting itself being of the yellowish tint.

-Thanks-

ROC
10-14-2010, 11:19 AM
K where are the submissions?

wheatgrinder
10-14-2010, 11:21 AM
The white was tough. In the shots where you see it.. every frame is rotoscoped! A greenscreen might have been easier, but I just don't have the confidence with keying and a deadline of three days is not the time to get that confidence.

I did shot on a white background, really just a piece of foam core gaffed to a rolling light stand this worked quite well, but I was not able to successfully PUSH the whites like I needed without totally bonking the rest of the image. As the background was already "whitish" the masks didn't need to be all that tight, so it wasn't ALL TOO BAD to roto the shots, a few hours...

The white background was a part of the job description, though it did say "if possible..." If Id had a great location I may have risked something different, as it is, my basement is pretty dull.

Papertwinproductions
10-14-2010, 11:22 AM
K where are the submissions?

Here's Wheats

http://www.poptent.net/media/24367

Ours is "Pending".

ROC
10-14-2010, 11:26 AM
wheat the only thing I would do differently is play up a little more urgency in the opening "Jack, get crackin' and diffuse that bomb!" but, that's just me - your spot is perfect otherwise! Awesome job!

You should watch Hurt Locker now - maybe you'll wreck another keyboard when you re-read my "Nut Locker" joke.

:)

wheatgrinder
10-14-2010, 11:30 AM
Thanks ROC,
Iv not actually submitted that one yet. Im agonizing over weather to UPDATE my current submission or upload this as a NEW one.. I can do either.. but....

ROC
10-14-2010, 12:45 PM
hehe - "Jack - Hurry up and submit that spot!"

Cracker Funk
10-14-2010, 01:07 PM
Not too bassy, in my opinion.

ROC
10-14-2010, 01:14 PM
I missed that bass comment you made, Wheat.

Do you want me to listen to it on my wall-mounteds?

wheatgrinder
10-14-2010, 04:11 PM
you can if you want. its submitted and I'm done with this sucka .. movin on.. though Im waiting to see PTP's submission.. wazup?

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 05:33 AM
Poptent are swamped, as soon as the submission is accepted i'll post the link.

It's a "Curve ball", just so you know...

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 09:29 AM
Here it is, the first of two drafts.

http://www.poptent.net/media/24382

00:09 - 00:11 seconds will be cut, for the final submission.

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 10:59 AM
oh my heck, that is funny! Im still laughing..

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 11:42 AM
:cool:

Do you agree on the cutting of the two shots between 00:09-00:11 seconds, Wheat?

NickClapper
10-15-2010, 11:46 AM
Just, for the record, I'm going to say that I think both of the ads on this thread are really, really good and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if one of you two won the competition.

:bow:

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 12:00 PM
Just, for the record, I'm going to say that I think both of the ads on this thread are really, really good and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if one of you two won the competition.

:bow:

Cheers, Clapper. :)

We've just reposted the new edit, i believe, even it is stated as "Pending", it's viewable.

http://www.poptent.net/media/24382

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 12:07 PM
ah.. I just saw your updated version.. much tighter it was the right thing..

FYI:
rev one here: http://www.poptent.net/media/24382/1
rev two here http://www.poptent.net/media/24382/2

I think you could also cut the wide shot at 5: .... your still a bit over 10: right?

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 12:12 PM
ah.. I just saw your updated version.. much tighter it was the right thing..

FYI:
rev one here: http://www.poptent.net/media/24382/1
rev two here http://www.poptent.net/media/24382/2

I think you could also cut the wide shot at 5: .... your still a bit over 10: right?

Thanks, Wheat.

However, our Foley guy is unavailable, we managed to cut the two shots because there was a gap in the audio. I'm not favourable of the shot in question, either. It takes me out of it.

Deadline is upon us, Wheat. Excited?

Also, the second version is "Pending", yet viewable. I wonder why?

Buddy Greenfield
10-15-2010, 12:51 PM
Nice. :lol:

-Thanks-

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 12:55 PM
Nice. :lol:

-Thanks-

Thanks, Bud. :)

Cracker Funk
10-15-2010, 12:55 PM
Cheers, Clapper. :)

We've just reposted the new edit, i believe, even it is stated as "Pending", it's viewable.

http://www.poptent.net/media/24382

:lol:

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 12:58 PM
:lol:

I did say it's a curve ball :blush:

I'm glad you appreciate it, Cracker!

Buddy Greenfield
10-15-2010, 01:00 PM
That is just crazy enough to win.

(But win or lose I love that you didn't play it safe.)

Good luck to both of you guys.

-Thanks-

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 01:04 PM
That is just crazy enough to win.

(But win or lose I love that you didn't play it safe.)

Good luck to both of you guys.

-Thanks-

I researched their previous commericials, I'm hoping there is some leighway. So here's to fingers crossed for the both of us!

Salute!:cheers:

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 01:25 PM
There some fun commercials there. Stiff competition.

Dreadylocks
10-15-2010, 01:27 PM
Nice one paper! I LOLed. I especially love the little mustache.

What was the point of the raw chicken? Is it just because chickens and comedy go so well together?

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 01:28 PM
There some fun commercials there. Stiff competition.

Most definitely. Have any of the other assignments caught your eye yet?

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 01:29 PM
Nice one paper! I LOLed. I especially love the little mustache.

What was the point of the raw chicken? Is it just because chickens and comedy go so well together?

It was a "Ham"...

:blush:

Slapping the ham...

I'm supposed to be British, innuendo is not my forte...

Dreadylocks
10-15-2010, 01:38 PM
It was a "Ham"...

:blush:

Slapping the ham...

I'm supposed to be British, innuendo is not my forte...

Wait? So is that a masturbation joke?

NickClapper
10-15-2010, 01:59 PM
Wow, I enjoyed it and I didn't even get the masturbation joke.

Now I think it's the Best. Ad. Ever.

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:02 PM
Wait? So is that a masturbation joke?

Indeed, Dready.

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Wow, I enjoyed it and I didn't even get the masturbation joke.

Now I think it's the Best. Ad. Ever.

:lol::lol:

Dreadylocks
10-15-2010, 02:04 PM
You should make a second commercial. Same concept, same everything. But instead of a man it's a woman, and instead of a ham it's a fish.

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 02:04 PM
Wait? So is that a masturbation joke?

This is clear proof that you are indeed a female

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:06 PM
You should make a second commercial. Same concept, same everything. But instead of a man it's a woman, and instead of a ham it's a fish.

:lol:!

Buddy Greenfield
10-15-2010, 02:10 PM
Even if you don’t win, there is no way any of the judges will forget your submission, ever.
You have gone to a place there is just no coming back from, and done it well on top of it.

It’s a thing of beauty really.

-Thanks-

NickClapper
10-15-2010, 02:12 PM
You have gone to a place there is just no coming back from

It's like the Mordor of all masturbation adverts...

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:16 PM
Even if you don’t win, there is no way any of the judges will forget your submission, ever.
You have gone to a place there is just no coming back from, and done it well on top of it.

It’s a thing of beauty really.

-Thanks-

I'm hoping there's a guffaw, in the judging.

I'm almost certain it would take a brand with "Stones" to air our spot. :rolleyes:

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 02:26 PM
with youtube and some of the advanced ad placement techniques (head end cable systems late night programing etc.. ) its a good spot for the desired demographic in the right time slot.

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:30 PM
with youtube and some of the advanced ad placement techniques (head end cable systems late night programing etc.. ) its a good spot for the desired demographic in the right time slot.

We hadn't pre-empt a demographic, only assuming from what i research i had from their past commercials. I was somewhat testing their boundaries.

Let's see, eh.

Buddy Greenfield
10-15-2010, 02:31 PM
Heck yeah it is.

If I saw that late one night on cable TV, there wouldn’t be a chance in hell I would forget the brand.
At 1st I would think I hallucinated it, but then it would be the water cooler topic/ must see the next day.

Win or not, you can bet somewhere out there is a brand that wishes that spot was theirs.


-Thanks-

Papertwinproductions
10-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Heck yeah it is.

If I saw that late one night on cable TV, there wouldn’t be a chance in hell I would forget the brand.
At 1st I would think I hallucinated it, but then it would be the water cooler topic/ must see the next day.

Win or not, you can bet somewhere out there is a brand that wishes that spot was theirs.


-Thanks-

Let's hope so, Buddy.

Deadline.

Goodluck Wheat.

wheatgrinder
10-15-2010, 03:16 PM
which makes me wonder.. what happens if we DONT win? Swap out different types of nuts and start shopping it.. Theres lots of little producers maybe somebody buy it..

Papertwinproductions
10-16-2010, 09:44 AM
which makes me wonder.. what happens if we DONT win? Swap out different types of nuts and start shopping it.. Theres lots of little producers maybe somebody buy it..

I believe it's stated that the material, once submitted, is property of the brand.

Dreadylocks
10-16-2010, 09:49 AM
I believe it's stated that the material, once submitted, is property of the brand.

Yes but I believe that if they want to use them they still have to buy the spot for whatever the agreed upon 'prize' price was.

If you go through older entries on the blog you will actually see examples of companies coming back after a month or two and buying more submissions because they liked them so much (and it's probably still a crazy good deal for them).

Papertwinproductions
10-16-2010, 10:47 AM
Yes but I believe that if they want to use them they still have to buy the spot for whatever the agreed upon 'prize' price was.

If you go through older entries on the blog you will actually see examples of companies coming back after a month or two and buying more submissions because they liked them so much (and it's probably still a crazy good deal for them).

True.

Although, it's a perhaps shame for those who want to use their material collectively in their "Showreel".

wheatgrinder
10-16-2010, 01:12 PM
iI read this thread from the staff..

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A couple of my actors have asked if they can put segments of the commercials they appeared in on their reel. I'm guessing this would fall under the same embargo rule …

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o Staff Tim Breslin
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Actually, no - that's legit. As long as it's in a reel, preferably not the whole spot.

Papertwinproductions
10-17-2010, 03:51 AM
Actually, no - that's legit. As long as it's in a reel, preferably not the whole spot.

Well, that is good to know.