Titanic 2

I can imagine the thought process of some passengers...
"Well, this dude is a billionaire! He wouldn't get in it with us if it wasn't safe"

My background is in computer science, and two of my computer hardware classes were taught by a woman with Ph. D in "dependable computing" it's funny how the more you learn about stuff the LESS you trust it
 
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And apparently these guys who run this company were warned multiple times about potential problems but they didn't give a damn - they just wanted to "innovate" and make $$$.

I'm all for innovation but safety first.
 
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I don't wish to be the bearer of bad news, but since the authorities can't admit it yet, someone should say it. Those people are all 100% dead. 40 hours of oxygen left starting 3 1/2 days ago, you don't exactly have to be a math whiz to work out that if that sub hasn't surfaced yet, it's a problem.

But that's not what happened. It's obvious what happened. Radio contact shuts off shortly after the sub dives. So they are bringing in 1 million per trip, and don't have a backup radio? I expect they did have a backup radio. But let's say something knocks out both radios, at the exact same time. If that were the case, the sub would have simply surfaced, and rescheduled the trip, since the radio blackout would cause a 10 million dollar search, that they would obviously be sued for if they caused it intentionally.

So that leaves two possibilities. One possibility is that the sub flooded somehow. That would explain sudden radio silence, and the missing sub. Obviously in that scenario everyone dies very quickly. The other is a good bit more horrifying. The power went down, cutting the engine, heat, and radio, and these guys weren't smart enough to install an emergency backup power system. Then the sub was just swept away at the mercy of unpredictable undersea currents. If they had a manual ballast release, which would have been a smart way to go, they could resurface without power. So they probably didn't have a manual ballast release. Sub might be too heavy for that. If they had, a large metal object floating on the surface of the ocean is visible from a long distance from the air, so they probably would have been rescued. So they either died instantly or were swept away into an infinite void of blackness and probably suffocated to death while staring into the 3 foot diameter eye of a giant squid through an observation window.

I don't need to point out the obvious, but if these people had spent their quarter million a day disposable self centered party money at St Jude's children's hospital helping dying kids that were desperate for help, they probably wouldn't have drowned there. Most of the children's hospitals are on land. Denzel spends his quarter million a day there, signing autographs for sick kids, donating new wings to the hospital, and he almost never gets crushed to death in a submarine.
 
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we can create a submarine called the Titan 3 and charge people $500,000 a ticket to go undersea and view the wreckage of the Titan.
 
I was holding out hope, but it's really gonna take a miracle now with the sun down and everything.
I asked bingGPT for a summary

I don’t know the exact time when the oxygen will run out, because it depends on the breathing rate of the crew and other factors. But based on the information I have, it could be sometime around 8:45 am ET on June 22, 2023, which is 96 hours after the submersible lost contact with the surface vessel.


Hamish Harding: A 58-year-old British businessman and explorer who owns a global sales company called Action Aviation. He is also a trained jet pilot and a Guinness World Records holder for various feats of aviation and exploration. He has flown to space on a Blue Origin mission, accompanied former astronaut Buzz Aldrin to the South Pole, and visited both of the Earth’s poles in record time. He joined the Titanic expedition as a mission specialist and posted about it on his Instagram account before the dive.

Shahzada Dawood: A 48-year-old British-Pakistani billionaire who is vice chairman of Engro Corporation, a Pakistani energy manufacturing and tech conglomerate. He is also involved in various philanthropic and scientific endeavors, such as the Engro Foundation, The Dawood Foundation, the SETI Institute, and Prince’s Trust International. He has spoken at the United Nations and Oxford Union on topics related to science and women’s empowerment. He was on board the Titan with his son, Suleman Dawood.

Suleman Dawood: A 19-year-old university student who is the son of Shahzada Dawood. He is interested in science fiction literature, Rubik’s Cubes, and volleyball. He accompanied his father on the Titanic expedition as a birthday gift.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet: A 77-year-old French explorer who is a retired commander in the French navy and a world-renowned expert on underwater wrecks. He has written books and articles about the Titanic and has visited the wreck site more than 30 times since 1987. He was the leader of the first expedition that recovered artifacts from the Titanic in 1987. He was piloting the Titan submersible during the dive.

Stockton Rush: A 54-year-old American entrepreneur who is the founder and CEO of OceanGate, Inc., the company that developed and operated the Titan submersible. He is also an aerospace engineer and a former test pilot for Boeing. He has a vision of making deep-sea exploration accessible and affordable for researchers, explorers, and tourists. He was co-piloting the Titan submersible during the dive.
 
And apparently these guys who run this company were warned multiple times about potential problems but they didn't give a damn - they just wanted to "innovate" and make $$$.
Yet the founder and CEO of OceanGate is on board. If all he wanted to do
was innovate and make money it seems to me he wouldn't have gone down
with the ship...
 
Yet the founder and CEO of OceanGate is on board. If all he wanted to do
was innovate and make money it seems to me he wouldn't have gone down
with the ship...
That is, I think, directly related to the desire to innovate at all costs, like the quote attributed to Zuckerberg that they need to "move fast and break things." In this case, the founder and CEO of OceanGate seems to have broken himself as well as 4 others.
 
Yet the founder and CEO of OceanGate is on board. If all he wanted to do
was innovate and make money it seems to me he wouldn't have gone down
with the ship...
There is a long list of dumb shit that the CEO did to end up there, most of it revolved around trying to cut costs/increase profit margins


Refused to hire expereinced crew because "old white guys aren't inspirational" for real this is something he said.. wtf.
(AKA Won't hire EXPENSIVE qualified people)


Fired someone because they said it wasn't safe and more money should be spent for safety


Bought a cheap porthole that was rated for 1,300 meters and took it down to 4,000 meters.


Had NO RADIO on board for verbal communication--- SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK -- no radio???


Painted the craft white/blue so its impossible to see even if it surfaced
Not even a simple fucking emergency beacon.... couldn't even bother to spend money on a fucking life saving beacon.

 
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Also keep in mind these people were literally gawking at a graveyard, they weren't exploring new frontiers, or trying to reach new depths in the mariana trench or something like that. literally gawking at a graveyard, exploiting the deaths of 1,500 people to make a buck.

Reminds me a lot of this scene from lord of the rings..
Don't look at the dead faces in the water... or you will join them and light little candles of your own.

So eerie it's exactly what happened to them.



Man that sucks, especially for the kid,
Then again, when I was like 7 years old there was a girl neighbor my age that died of lukemia, now that really sucks, not even a fucking choice in the matter. the world is such a fucked up place.

RIP


 
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This is the type of behavior that gets you into a position to blow a quarter million dollars on yourself in one afternoon. To be able to do that, you have to train your mind to ignore the suffering of thousands of others. You have to be willing to watch a lot of people commit suicide 6 months after they missed a balloon payment because your factory wouldn't give them a 49c raise after 4 years. The core idea is what I just said, that you could never amass huge wealth without first learning to turn a blind eye to the suffering of others. I'm not talking about building wealth in a business, I'm talking about personal wealth you use to make yourself feel better, at 250k a day. I do feel bad for the 19 year old, that's not old enough for me to hold anyone accountable for their life choices.

So fuck these people, fuck their laurels, fuck their donation of .00001 percent of the money they didn't have work for to get their name on a charity list, fuck this ceo that was so greedy and psychopathic the he could look someone right in the eye during an 8 hour boat ride, knowing that he cheeped out on their safety, their future, to line his own pockets. Do you know how much these 5 billionaire princes would care if me and everyone in my town died horribly. Not even a little bit. Not even if they personally caused it. I feel like I'm treating them fairly. To me, psychopathy isn't "a fun Ayn Rand book about telling poors to get fucked" its a birth defect in the anterior cortex, that gives the worlds worst people a strong advantage in business and finance. The part of their brain that processes guilt and shame and empathy is underdeveloped, so they become serial killers, and CEO's mostly. I seriously doubt all these people were psychopaths, it's only 1/33 by birth. But being born into wealth has an extremely high yield of the psychopath's cousin, the sociopath.

Go down to Wall street at lunch, and bring a life sized doll of a child with you. Then put it face down on the sidewalk, and go sit on a bench. You can watch your betters talk on their cell phones as they step over the body, looking a bit annoyed at the inconvenience they've been subjected to, and feeling a momentary flash of self pity on the way to spagos to spend your next years salary on a truffle reduction they feel like they deserve because they won at gambling with money they were handed. But what happens if they loose at gambling? Then their life is still worth 2000 times what yours is. This is what happens when you let whoever has the most money make the rules. You get psychopathic rules that don't make sense and keep everyone except the psychopath poor and suppressed.

Did anyone else see this GM trial? I did. The people who did this didn't even bother to show up, they sent a scapegoat, paid him a bonus, and called it a day after they profited from the deaths of countless strangers. The guy who did show up in court, didn't even look slightly ashamed. Like the worst murderers, where they stand there in front of the victims families and laugh about what a good job they did on the murder. You don't think it happens? It happens. Fortunately, many of the judges are hardcore like me, and just extinguish that person's future on the spot.

Those judges are supposed to represent society, and I agree with them. They do represent me, and if I saw someone laughing at the worst pain in another person's life, I'd do everything in my power to make sure they died horribly. So if you think my view is psycho, then you must think that about every judge that puts a psychopath behind bars. We put killers in prison, but I think it's widely agreed that there's a special place in hell for people who can laugh off another persons tragedy and go throw themselves a party. We just ignore it if the person is rich. Society isn't super smart. How is this relevant? Every super rich person I've been friends with IRL, and there were a good number, is exactly like this sub guy. I'll take everything for myself, and if other people get hurt, that's their fucking problem. That's the thinking that produces wealth at this level.


GM may have killed at least dozens of innocent people to save less money than their brass spends on lunch (on a single day), or maybe a submarine ride, but you gotta give em a break. These people are heroes that support us all by paying taxes because they care so much about America right?

GM Endangered Lives to Save Less than $1 per Car​

In the past decade, over three hundred people have died in car accidents involving GM vehicles with ignition switch issues. Many of these deaths were attributed to airbag failure. General Motors has acknowledged that the deaths of at least 13 people were related to defective auto parts, and to date, more than a million GM vehicles have already been recalled by the company for having faulty ignition switches and wiring defects.
An ignition switch defect may cause the car’s ignition to turn to the off position while the vehicle is running, leading to the failure of airbags to deploy upon a collision, as well as issues with steering and applying the brakes. This defect has been associated mostly with Chevy Cobalt vehicles, but General Motors has also recalled the following vehicles:
  • 2005-2010 Chevy Cobalt
  • 2006-2010 Pontiac Solstice
  • 2007-2010 Pontiac G5
  • 2006-2011 Saturn Sky
  • 2006-2011 Chevy HHR
  • 2003-2007 Saturn Ion
According to an internal GM document provided to U.S. congressional investigators, in 2005, General Motors opted against replacing an ignition switch used in many of its assembly lines because it would have added about a dollar to the cost of each unit. This means that for almost a decade, the company was already aware of the defect in their ignition switches, before eventually deciding to recall the affected vehicles.

If a rich person is talented, I respect that. If they are honest, I respect that. But I don't respect people just for having money, or make assumptions that they "know what they're doing" Al Capone was the richest guy around in his day, and when they finally figured out his genius plan, it was - if someone tells me no on a business deal, I hit them on the head with a stick as hard as I can. You don't need to be a genius to be rich. You just have to be willing to step over a screaming widow and "TAKE IT". (that's a sign that you are strongs). The single greatest skill to attaining wealth is being able to look someone right in the eye and lie to them. If you don't believe me, I can sell you a youtube course on Amazon drop shipping. Just give me 300 dollars right now, and you'll be rich later this month, by which I mean, I'll be rich later this month. Have you thought about self publishing on Audible? What if you give me 5 grand to align the furniture in your house to be "Fung Schue"? That way the energy flowing through your fucking sofa can align with the stars. Like I said, I've known a lot of rich people.

So no, I don't feel sorry for these 5 dead people. Maybe the kid and the old guy trying to relive his greatest memory. I would never in a million years, no matter how much money I had, spend a quarter million dollars on myself in an afternoon. That's an entire African village, dead from starvation. Even if I felt like I was 1000 times as important as one of those villagers, the math still doesn't work out. Their entire lives, gone so I could enjoy a single day? I'm not a monster, I couldn't do that. I feel sorry for the 700 homeless people that will die in the snow this year because these people spent 1 million dollars on themselves doing something totally insignificant and pointless then immediately said "wish I could help, but there's no blanket money left in the budget after "priority business expenditures for deep sea research into whether or not the titanic sank"".

You can buy a lot of fucking blankets and ignition switches for 1 million dollars. Fuck you news station, why don't you show me a story about those 13 families that burned to death in car crashes so one of our "heroes" could literally save one dollar. Because I did care that those people died, every single one of those nameless suburbanites deaths was a tragedy, because they put their trust in their wealthy overlords, and got our American house special, the smallpox blanket.
 
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I enjoy writing/performing standup comedy, and I'll make light of basically anything in the news, it's part of how I process things and everyone deals with stuff differently. But I was hoping for them to be saved and gave their death a moment of solemn silence.

I hear they found wreckage so it sounds like they imploded and it was instant and painless. Good for them.
Stuck inside that tiny tube running out of oxygen sounds like a nightmare, but an instant painless death is something all of us would be so lucky to have.
 
I'm not happy that anyone died. It is sad. It's just less sad when someone dies during an act of great selfishness. If these people had died trying to do literally anything else besides spend another person's lifetime income on themselves in a day, I would feel really bad for them. There's just a level of self centeredness I've learned to hate above all else, and this happened to be a real life example of that.

Keep in mind I live in one of the poorest parts of the country, and it's not unusual out here for someone to die horribly because they couldn't get ahold of 2 or 3 thousand dollars. Nobody cares about those people though, and they don't get on the news.

I'm glad no one suffered, and I also use comedy to buffer intense emotions. My rant there wasn't really prompted by the lost sub, or the deaths, it was prompted by the line $250,000 a ticket. Ultimately, down the chain of the butterfly effect, someone somewhere had to die for each of those tickets.
 
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