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Old 09-05-2017, 10:16 AM   #1
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Why can't Iranian directors make professional looking films?

Are their actors bad? Or it is about make up, or directing? Or any other reason?

For example, a killer movie.......


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Old 09-05-2017, 11:35 AM   #3
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No kidding. “A Separation” is a beautiful looking film. Great acting and
Farhadi is a fine director. Two Academy Awards – not bad. His “The
Salesman” shows he has the skill and talent to make very professional
films.

I could name another dozen or so that are very professional with great
acting and directing. I admit that here in the States we tend to only get
the best ones so my overall exposure to Iranian directors is limited – I
have not heard of a killer movie. I was a big fan of Iranian films in the
90's – very influential work being done. Not too many films have been
released in the States in the 2000's

Perhaps it's the political and social climate in Iran that keeps the most
creative directors from fulfilling their potential.
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Old 09-05-2017, 12:29 PM   #4
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No kidding. “A Separation” is a beautiful looking film. Great acting and
Farhadi is a fine director. Two Academy Awards – not bad. His “The
Salesman” shows he has the skill and talent to make very professional
films.

I could name another dozen or so that are very professional with great
acting and directing. I admit that here in the States we tend to only get
the best ones so my overall exposure to Iranian directors is limited – I
have not heard of a killer movie. I was a big fan of Iranian films in the
90's – very influential work being done. Not too many films have been
released in the States in the 2000's

Perhaps it's the political and social climate in Iran that keeps the most
creative directors from fulfilling their potential.
I hope Iran will make better films again, new and nice....




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Old 09-05-2017, 01:58 PM   #5
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I'm looking at lists and it seems that only a few films are made each
year in Iran. Is Wikipeda correct? Only one Iranian film released in
2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016? None in 2015?

Even in the 1990's there are only three to five released each year.

I looked at 2009; only four films released and all four won awards in
international film festivals. Can it be that in 2016 the only film released
in Iran was Farhadi's “The Salesman”?
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Are their actors bad? Or it is about make up, or directing? Or any other reason?
Maybe that's the answer to your question, nobody. How can a director
get better at their craft if they cannot make several movies?
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I'm looking at lists and it seems that only a few films are made each
year in Iran. Is Wikipeda correct? Only one Iranian film released in
2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016? None in 2015?

Even in the 1990's there are only three to five released each year.

I looked at 2009; only four films released and all four won awards in
international film festivals. Can it be that in 2016 the only film released
in Iran was Farhadi's “The Salesman”?

Maybe that's the answer to your question, nobody. How can a director
get better at their craft if they cannot make several movies?
I think it is not about inside country release. I KNOW FROM PAST that it was 90 films... Now, I don't know...


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The Iranian government doesn't allow you to see many U.S. films so you
think “Hollywood” (the movie studios) is a system of corruption. The
Iranian government doesn't allow much information about Iranian films
to reach the U.S. so I don't get to see or even research films from Iran.
I only see the best of the best.

Because of these conversations I am now looking into Iranian cinema
more deeply. I've just purchased several books. Government censorship
of movies doesn't lead to great cinema or great directors. For example
the movie “Asabani Nistam” (2014) was a movie I thought was very
powerful but it was banned in your country so you may have never seen
it.

It is interesting that as an outsider I have always known Iranian films to
be very good generally. Wonderful directors, terrific, emotional writing,
fine acting. But YOU, an insider, sees that Iranian directors cannot make
professional looking movies. Here in the States we never see the film of
Iran that you see.

How many films do you see a month? I see between 15 and 25.
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The Iranian government doesn't allow you to see many U.S. films so you
think “Hollywood” (the movie studios) is a system of corruption. The
Iranian government doesn't allow much information about Iranian films
to reach the U.S. so I don't get to see or even research films from Iran.
I only see the best of the best.

Because of these conversations I am now looking into Iranian cinema
more deeply. I've just purchased several books. Government censorship
of movies doesn't lead to great cinema or great directors. For example
the movie “Asabani Nistam” (2014) was a movie I thought was very
powerful but it was banned in your country so you may have never seen
it.

It is interesting that as an outsider I have always known Iranian films to
be very good generally. Wonderful directors, terrific, emotional writing,
fine acting. But YOU, an insider, sees that Iranian directors cannot make
professional looking movies. Here in the States we never see the film of
Iran that you see.

How many films do you see a month? I see between 15 and 25.
I usually watch very few new films. I like watching old films. For example, I watch Coen movies because I have them saved, I also have a few Steven Spielberg movies, though, I can only watch Schindler's List lonely, because it has some porn. I have Terminal, Saving Private Ryan, and I like to have "Catch me if you can", and "Duel".
I like Phone booth, too. The Lord of the rings were good too, didn't watch for years....
I watch for example "No Country For Old Men" some times in Persian subtitle, some times in English, and some times in no subtitles, hopefully, it can help me learn English. Of course, this is a nice movie in Persian translation with voice, too. And it is less re-watchable than "Raising Arizona" because latter is in Persian dialogue PERHAPS, maybe this is not the reason, anyways, watching "No Country For Old Men" improves my English too. I no longer have laptop AND I think the film subtitle can't be watched by CD player, so, these times, I see with no subtitle more.. Maybe I should export it soon. I love Phone Booth, too... I see more new trailers and clips than whole new movies. I didn't watch many films of other than Coen brothers, as a matter of fact. If TV of Iran shows a film from Steven Spielberg, I perhaps will be watching it, too, because I know his works not enough.....

I may have to find Persian version of the No Country and mix with English subtitles, this is better way to learn English, and I will understand with more ease.... I like this way...

http://www.namasha.com/v/8JnVlfaX


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