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Old 04-06-2018, 05:06 PM   #1
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Academy Award for Best Original Song

Songs that get nominated for Academy, do the song have to be in the movie?

I know songs like 'Jai Ho' (Slumdog Millionaire, 2008), 'Let It Go' (Frozen, 2013) appeared in the movie, but I don't remember seeing 'whether My Heart Will Go On' (Titanic, 1997) song in the movie. (I watched this movie long time ago, so I am not 100% sure). Does that mean the song don't need to be necessarily in the movie and can come separate as a soundtrack just for promoting the movie?

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"My Heart Will Go On" was used over the end credits. It may have seemed like a bit of a cheat, but was fully appropriate as it definitely applied to "Old" Rose.
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Old 04-06-2018, 06:22 PM   #3
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Thank you for your reply.

I just gave Titanic as an example. There are few other movies that comes to my mind that I don't remember seeing the song in the movie. Maybe like you said, it might have been disguised. But I would like to know, whether all the academy nominated songs must come in the movie one way or other or can it just come separate as a soundtrack and used for promoting the movie?

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Old 04-06-2018, 06:48 PM   #4
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In the movie.

It can be a simple as a car passing by with music playing you hear for 2.5 seconds. That song can end up on the soundtrack and become a hit even though many may miss it in the film itself. Has happened to me. Also, songs playing in bars really low as people talk, etc.
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There can be rare occasions where the song was cut but the CD was pressed. Man I keep saying CD. That sounds so dated now lol.
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Man I keep saying CD. That sound so dated now lol.
You think that's dated, I still say "records" as in vinyl.
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Old 04-06-2018, 08:12 PM   #7
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I say record because it's non-format. Like, my band is making a record. If I know the length I may say album, or EP.

PS. Sorry I didn't answer the academy question, I am sure they have their requirements not sure what they are. Minutes on screen, etc. No idea.
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Old 04-07-2018, 12:06 AM   #8
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Rule 15 B
An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture. There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits.
In the 1960's with the demise of the original movie musical many
nominated songs were title songs like "Born Free", "Days of Wine
and Roses", "Never on Sunday". Starting in the 70's a song was
often just thrown in hoping for a nomination; "The Morning After",
"We May Never Love Like This Again", "It's Easy to Say". Without
looking them up can you name the movies? Exactly. The songs have
nothing to do with the movie.

I find it interesting that the first song from a James Bond movie
nominated was in 1977. None of the iconic 60's opening credits
songs were even nominated. The exception (kind of) is the non
Bond Bond movie "Casino Royal" in '67.

Another thing that I don't quite understand is that during the telecast
the nominees for Best Picture are given a 60 second clip but the
nominees for Best Song are done in their entirety - usually 4 to 5
minutes.
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Another thing that I don't quite understand is that during the telecast the nominees for Best Picture are given a 60 second clip but the nominees for Best Song are done in their entirety - usually 4 to 5 minutes.
I understand it. As most of the songs are performed by "big names" these days the producers of awards shows try to get those "big names" to perform in the hopes of attracting a bigger ratings share. As always, it's all about the money.
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Old 04-09-2018, 12:42 PM   #10
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Good point directorik, I usually tune out at the Best Song performances.
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