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Old 02-27-2017, 02:22 PM   #1
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Trying to make this documentary project more interesting...

For a film school project, the assignment is for students to pair up and make a documentary on each other. I would do one on one student, and he/she, would do one on me.

However, I don't have a life that is much interesting to make a documentary out of, and neither does the other student perhaps. So I was wondering, is there anything we can do to spice this up? I actually wanted us to make a documentary on something external, like a real world issue or something possibly important, or more fascinating, but not sure if the school will let us do that of course.

I can find out, but is there anything we can do for this assignment to make it better and something that is actually worth talking about ourselves with?
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:43 PM   #2
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Now you're in film school and you're already changing the teacher's assignment and back on indietalk asking how.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:00 PM   #3
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Well is there anything I can do to make the assignment more interesting, since it's a documentary on us?
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:08 PM   #4
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I think you could give American Movie a run for it's money
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:14 PM   #5
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One of the few things I like about film school is a teacher who
challenges the students. Make a doc about a fellow student is
a challenge. About 70% of the students will not know how to
make their project interesting they will not rise to the challenge.
About 20% will give it their best and learn something about
themselves as a filmmaker. It's the rare few who can take this
difficult challenge and make a great movie. Those are the filmmakers.

No one can answer your question, Ryan. We do not know the
person you are working with. However, I know I could make an
interesting documentary. Only knowing you from message boards
I could make an interesting documentary about you.

Why can't YOU think of anything? Why do you need others to give
you inspiration and ideas on how to make YOUR movie?
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:19 PM   #6
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:22 PM   #7
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Just the question why you want to be a filmmaker should bring up something interesting. What do you love, hate, fear?
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:40 PM   #8
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That's another thing. If you are not up to the challenge of the professor, you need to ask yourself if you even want to be a filmmaker. Because a filmmaker would step up to the challenge and not try to change it or ask for ideas.

Get to it man! That's an order.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:05 PM   #9
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For a film school project
Arrrr faark. I thought we'd get to palm you off if you joined film school.

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I actually wanted us to make a documentary on something external
Do that, but do your assignment first. Part of being a professional is having the ability to do the assigned work.

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It's the rare few who can take this difficult challenge and make a great movie. Those are the filmmakers.
This is very much true. Excellent quote. In the spirit of Apple, I'm stealing it.

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Only knowing you from message boards
I could make an interesting documentary about you.
There's a hole in my bucket...

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a filmmaker would step up to the challenge and not try to change it or ask for ideas
I'm going to disagree. Great filmmakers often get and use ideas from their team. We all get stuck from time to time and it can help getting ideas to get you started.

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is there anything we can do for this assignment to make it better
Sure is. As Rik said, you can step up to the plate and be a filmmaker.

Work out your plan. Put in the work. Don't be a lazy shit. No one is going to do your assignment work for you.

After you've done your hard work, if you still find yourself without a great plan THEN share it here or with members of your class/teacher. Get suggestions on how to improve it and make a decision. First you have to do the legwork.
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I meant by asking for ideas on how to change it instead of just doing the original idea... but yeah.
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:37 PM   #11
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For that, you're pretty much spot on. I originally took that part of your quote out and meant to change my reply, but it looks like I screwed that up. lol.

That being said, there's been a few times where a task was given and was changed due to suggestions. It can depend on the circumstance and the preferences of those involved, but in school, when you're being tested, it's best to stick to the assigned task.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:21 AM   #12
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Few things:

The beginning of film school is often the part you find the most difficult as have the most constraints. All you want to do is get the best camera the school has, take it out and shoot a movie. But you can't. You have little access to equipment and are often prescribed projects that seem quite difficult or boring.
Take them and do them and do your best at them. Those who can work within the constraints given and tell an incredible story will be able to tell an even greater story when the 'blinkers are off' (so to speak).

Secondly, filmmakers are storytellers. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that neither you or they have any story to tell. Find the story, and tell it in an interesting way.

Thirdly, not everybody is equally creative. That's fine. But you need to find where you fit in. The journey of film school is great for doing that, and through doing these assignments and learning what you will learn, you will hopefully figure out where it is you fit in.

You may end up a great Production Designer, or Composer, or Editor, or Screenwriter or Cinematographer or Producer. You don't have to be a Director. And not being a Director is okay.

If you do, desperately, want to be a Director, then find the story and tell it. Otherwise, maybe it's worth considering that there's another path on this journey. That doesn't excuse you from the assignment. Do it.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:37 AM   #13
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Yeah I don't know if I wanted to be a director since my original passions were acting and writing. I just found myself taking on the director role, to have more control of what products come out of me in the future.

As for the assignment itself, I just didn't think that doing a project on a student was a good idea, as oppose to doing a project on an issue. Issues can be more powerful than the average joe's life, so I thought that would be better.

As for the assignment itself, I suppose for a documentary on me, I can talk about my abused childhood, and some of the things there. Perhaps there is a story to tell there. It's not something I like talking about, especially for a classroom full of students to see, but since I can't think of a better story, I might go with that one.
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Yeah I don't know if I wanted to be a director since my original passions were acting and writing. I just found myself taking on the director role, to have more control of what products come out of me in the future.
So you've spent the last 6 years asking questions about directing and it's not your interest.

Funny.

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As for the assignment itself, I just didn't think that doing a project on a student was a good idea, as oppose to doing a project on an issue. Issues can be more powerful than the average joe's life, so I thought that would be better.
I think the exact opposite. Stories are about characters.


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As for the assignment itself, I suppose for a documentary on me, I can talk about my abused childhood, and some of the things there. Perhaps there is a story to tell there. It's not something I like talking about, especially for a classroom full of students to see, but since I can't think of a better story, I might go with that one.
So the only thing interesting about you as a person is a childhood experience from 20 years ago
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:59 AM   #15
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Yeah I don't know if I wanted to be a director since my original passions were acting and writing. I just found myself taking on the director role, to have more control of what products come out of me in the future.
You punked us all all for 6 years, I knew it.
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