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Old 01-24-2017, 12:40 PM   #1
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What boompole would you recommend in this case?

I could use a new, professional one, cause I was using a DIY pole before, but it's tough to keep it silent cause it would make noises as you swing it from actor to actor before, and I would like one that is silent without needing the attention to keep it quiet. Plus it probably looks unprofessional on the sets I showed up to, where it took more time to keep it quiet.

Does anyone have any suggestions? There are the kinds where the XLR cable will go inside the pole, and extend with the pole. These kind I think are more money, but perhaps it's worth it to save time on set?

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Old 01-24-2017, 01:59 PM   #2
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I personally returned my boom pole that had the wire inside. it made it more complicated to expand and retract and it was slowing me down on set. Maybe it's because i'm just an amateur but I exchanged it for a pole without the internal wire and I'm happier now.

Certainly others would prefer it the other way around.
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:32 PM   #3
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But wouldn't you have extend and retract an internal wire as well? What's the difference?
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Old 01-24-2017, 07:37 PM   #4
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All people I know who had an internal wire didn't like it.

With the wire on the outside you can see why you are making noise.

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Old 01-24-2017, 07:47 PM   #5
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Never give h44 options lol!

H44.

External wire.

Done.
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:21 AM   #6
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Regular mic stands are great options too. You'd just have to replace the head with a shock mount. Or hell... a monopod works too. And also, it's not your equipment that defines the type of filmmaker you are, but how you use it.

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All people I know who had an internal wire didn't like it.

With the wire on the outside you can see why you are making noise.
I'm confused though. If the wire on the outside will cause noise to be made, then why is having it on the inside, bad too?
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Regular mic stands are great options too. You'd just have to replace the head with a shock mount. Or hell... a monopod works too. And also, it's not your equipment that defines the type of filmmaker you are, but how you use it.
I see what you mean, but mainly I had to wrap pieces of tape on my DIY pole, to keep it from making noise, and it took more time to set up between shots, when I had to adjust the length of the pole when changing spaces in the room. So I wanted something that was quicker, for set up.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:36 AM   #9
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Because in the inside it can make just as much noise, but then you can't fix it.
A retractable cable is flexible, so it will hang loose and can hit the pole on the inside.
Besides that: cables break every now and then. That is also easier fixed when it is external.

If the boom creates noise there are mostly just 2 possibilities:
- the cable hits the boom
- the operator hits the boom

To rule out the first problem an external cable is the best way to go.
The second problem is experience.

Changing the length of a boom can't take much longer than setting up a camera.
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:24 PM   #10
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Internally cabled boom-poles are great for very experienced professionals, which, H44, you are not.

Get whichever boom-pole length you think that you need and use an external mic cable. The external cable will make it easier for the non-professional to control cable noise.
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Okay thanks, so basically when say external cable, you are talking about one, where the cable is wrapped around the pole, right?

As for internal, and not being able to change the cable, I thought if a cable breaks, you could take it out and put a new one in. Or are the internal ones, forever built in, and cannot be replaced under any circumstances? If that is the case, then why are they for professionals more?
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Just listen to the advice.
It comes from a combined real life shooting experience of decades.
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:59 PM   #13
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Sure. I was recommended the internal wire pole by a boom op i worked with before, so I wanted other opinions. But if the external is the way to go cause it makes less noise, then I will go with that.
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But wouldn't you have extend and retract an internal wire as well? What's the difference?
the internal wire was much more difficult for me to extend and retract.
external was easier.
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Shhhhhhh he made a decision!
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