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View Poll Results: I would like to be able to visit IndieTalk...
To ask members questions about filmmaking 69 66.35%
To answer questions and offer members help 64 61.54%
To find organized filmmaking tips and tutorials in a specific database 40 38.46%
To read news/articles on filmmaking 37 35.58%
To be able to post dedicated tutorials and/or articles 16 15.38%
To post and promote my films 44 42.31%
To watch films 33 31.73%
To network with others in my area/build crews in my area etc 55 52.88%
To list/browse paid-only crewing jobs 16 15.38%
To socialize with other filmmakers and not always talk shop 55 52.88%
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:02 AM   #16
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Ok, I'll go with the nice, polite pleasant answer.

I'd like the site to stop playing second or third fiddle. I'd like it to be great at whatever it does, not a distant shadow of other available resources. I guess you're either looking for areas to look to either expand or improve.

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I would like to be able to visit IndieTalk...
To ask members questions about filmmaking
To answer questions and offer members help
To find organized filmmaking tips and tutorials in a specific database
To read news/articles on filmmaking
To be able to post dedicated tutorials and/or articles
To post and promote my films
To watch films
To network with others in my area/build crews in my area etc
To list/browse paid-only crewing jobs
To socialize with other filmmakers and not always talk shop
Not trying to insult you or any members here, there's nothing on that list that Indietalk is either unique or the leading resource available.

Whatever you choose, be the best in that area.... or exclusive.

That is how I see it. That is what I want to see.
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I thought you'd go brutally honest, you disappointed me.

I hear what you're saying, thanks.
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:23 PM   #18
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Thanks so far. I notice posting or finding paid crew positions is not high on anyone's list, with (1) vote. Is there a particular reason? Do you use another site for this and don't want it here? Do you not hire or work in the film biz professionally? I know many here offer paid crew slots so just wondering.
I rarely use the internet to hire. I prefer personal recommendations from people I
know and trust. The few times I have I prefer a site that has hundreds of professionals
users. If "indietalk" were to become that site I would use it to hire. However, that
isn't one of the reasons I visit or would even want in this site.

In my experience the "free" sites do not have a high quality of crew members to
choose from. Great if I'm doing a "no pay" hire - not so good if I'm paying local
rates. It's time consuming to go through 50 to 100 responses from dedicated but
inexperienced crew members looking for a paid gig.
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:34 PM   #19
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Thanks rik!
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Old 09-08-2016, 03:07 PM   #20
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I forgot to put in the poll: The reason I come to IT...

"That helpful fellow named rik always provides the best answers to my filmmaking questions"

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Old 09-08-2016, 07:07 PM   #21
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there's nothing on that list that Indietalk is either unique or the leading resource available.

The two things that make IndieTalk unique are:

The quality and patience of the long-term professionals (and highly experienced amateurs) who offer advice and criticism.

The IT moderators keep down the flame wars and other forms of stupid, childish, unprofessional behavior.




I browse and participate on other film sites, but this is "home."
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:22 PM   #22
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I thought you'd go brutally honest, you disappointed me.
LAWL. So you're saying I've built up a reputation?

98% of what's posted here is some rehash of a question or post that we've all seen over a hundred times.

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I know many here offer paid crew slots so just wondering.
From the other side (crew applying) than rik's perspective. It often turns out to be a waste of time for what is almost always an underpaid gig by an inexperienced boss who doesn't know what they want combined with unrealistic expectations.

Going through the standard channels for work in your chosen field and geographic area makes more sense unless you're desperate and cannot find work.

On the other hand, if you can get a decent majority of good gigs posted here, the people will follow. The workers will go where the work is.
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Old 09-08-2016, 07:31 PM   #23
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Good points.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:01 PM   #24
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The quality and patience of the long-term professionals (and highly experienced amateurs) who offer advice and criticism.
What you're describing isn't unique. Depending on your specialty, there's plenty of better places. For example, yourself and APE bring a lot of audio knowledge to IT but if audio is your thing, jwsoundgroup is a superior place to be. Hell, I'm in a great audio Facebook group which have more comradeship, patience and experience.


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The IT moderators keep down the flame wars and other forms of stupid, childish, unprofessional behavior.
Now that's what was unique and interesting about this site. It had character.

Now it's dull, filled with "what camera/microphone/recorder should I buy", h44's forever list of "I'm never going to make a film, but waste your anyway... yes, but..." or the "You must help me raise 7 figures so I can direct my stinking pile"

....and don't forget the never-ending list of ungrateful, entitled lazy shits who are angry at you (APE and users) who foolishly took the time out of your busy day, explaining why their unrealistic expectations are... unrealistic... and now it's all your fault... you're the ass****. What do you mean you need to spend money to hire a professional to get professional results...


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I browse and participate on other film sites, but this is "home."
I'm glad it still works for you. Indietalk is a better place with you in it.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:09 PM   #25
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The two things that make IndieTalk unique are:

The quality and patience of the long-term professionals (and highly experienced amateurs) who offer advice and criticism.

The IT moderators keep down the flame wars and other forms of stupid, childish, unprofessional behavior.




I browse and participate on other film sites, but this is "home."
Thanks AA, you're one of the big assets no doubt. I'm glad a lot of the old crew is still around, and that they have such patience.

We can set up a better way to get answers, as in filmmakers marking a question solved, and therefore when others search, the answer is highlighted for them. So the forum is in essence an easier to digest knowledgebase. Members that provide such value as an answer have a higher level of trust noted by a hierarchical system etc. etc... there's some stuff in store, this is to judge a certain way to steer, but there is good stuff coming in that regard.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:25 PM   #26
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you could do something scripts. people selling or acquiring.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:28 PM   #27
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We could possibly partner with InkTip we have been in contact with them in the past. I'm sure there's something we could do to mutually benefit our sites.

There was also a plan once to offer script coverage at a pretty affordable rate by an accomplished screenwriter. However it didn't seem many here would be interested or would actually use that service.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:21 PM   #28
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To watch H44 finally make a film with no ifs or buts? Just kidding (or am I) Iv come a long way and it's all credit to this website, I would never have met the people I did or develop my skills without some people from this site, I do feel as though the site is dying a bit and perhaps it could use film news to spark debate such as new cameras, new lights etc perhaps even showcasing some of the filmmakers here work as a monthly special.

Either way, Iv come to a point where some of the questions I needed answering were only answerable by industry professionals so I think this site has done me a great job.
Actually, he HAS made a film. If I remember correctly, it's about 40 minutes long? Or maybe it's more like 20? Whatever, I don't remember. Either way, it is quite an accomplishment. I've seen it. The original director's cut. There was a much shorter version cut as well, and they are dramatically different from each other.

The long-time IT'ers know that H44 and I have had what you might call a sticky relationship, so I think it'd be wise of me to say nothing else about his film. But hey, at least he HAS actually made a film. And that was many years ago. Since he was secretive about the release of that film, there's no telling what he may have done since then.

H44, I of course do not intend to speak for you.

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Ok, I'll go with the nice, polite pleasant answer.

I'd like the site to stop playing second or third fiddle. I'd like it to be great at whatever it does, not a distant shadow of other available resources. I guess you're either looking for areas to look to either expand or improve.



Not trying to insult you or any members here, there's nothing on that list that Indietalk is either unique or the leading resource available.

Whatever you choose, be the best in that area.... or exclusive.

That is how I see it. That is what I want to see.
I agree with your assessment that there's nothing particularly original on the list in the survey. There are other websites (with much more traffic) that also offer those things. And I think IT is obviously looking to figure out how to drive up the traffic, and I totally support that.

In fact, I support it so much that part of my "master-plan" in finding an audience for my next film involves doing whatever I can to drive up the traffic to this website. To me, the way that IT is unique from other websites is that we try to be civil to each other here. Yes, there are occasional dust-ups, I would know better than anybody. But as a whole, IT is a place where newbs can ask newb questions and not fear ridicule. I've seen those other websites, and they're vicious.

Is there anything particularly original on the list? Not really. But does IT have an original approach in how to deliver the things on that list? Absolutely.

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I forgot to put in the poll: The reason I come to IT...

"That helpful fellow named rik always provides the best answers to my filmmaking questions"

Yep. Not blowing any smoke up your ass, Rik. You deserve the very high praise. I've said this before, and I'll say it again -- any successes that I've ever had or ever will have in filmmaking are largely attributable to your tutelage.
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Old 09-09-2016, 05:21 PM   #29
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There was nothing innovative in the poll, sure. The idea was to see what you come here for and what you would, and then innovate in that area.

Of course asking and answering questions is high. I suppose I was looking for secondary reasons. With 18 votes it's hard to judge, but I will go with what I have. Some people have replied and have not voted.
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Old 09-13-2016, 03:17 PM   #30
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19 votes, one more and I'll consider it closed thanks.
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