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Old 09-02-2016, 11:54 PM   #1
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Question *HELP* What's Next?: Production Advice

Hey Everyone,

(NOTE: If you're going to tell me I can't shoot a film like this, please don't comment. I want people's advice who can help with the situation I am in right now. Thank you. )

So I've finished my script, done with storyboarding, and I've have picked out all my shooting locations.
My equipment includes: Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera (no lenses...)


What I want to know is what do y'all think is the best way to go about casting people and putting together a team online?
SPECIFICS: I don't have an agent just yet, and basically don't have a budget either... I'm broke. However, this script is gold. I'm from Atlanta, so I know there's a lot of untapped talent around here. Essentially, what I'm trying to do is create a team of people to work together to deliver an exceptional production. Furthermore, my chief selling point right now to those people is that this is going to be an excellent project, that will look stellar on their resumes. This really is true if things can go the way I want them.

What do you do in my shoes? How do you go about putting your team together with little to no money, and limited resources?

Really appreciate all the help. Thanks so much!


PS: If their are any actors in the Atlanta area reading this, please hit me up!
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Old 09-03-2016, 12:10 PM   #2
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With a camera body and no lenses, and I assume no sound or lighting/grip gear either, you have a lot of resources you need to secure beyond just actors. It does not matter how good your script is; if the lighting and sound suck, the story will not compensate. Of course, a camera body is no good without glass.

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However, this script is gold. ...my chief selling point right now to those people is that this is going to be an excellent project, that will look stellar on their resumes. This really is true if things can go the way I want them.
That cannot be your chief selling point. In fact, you need to abandon that as a selling point at all.

I haven't seen the script, so I can't make a judgement call, and the folks you're trying to recruit also will not have seen the script just yet. The thingh is that you'll end up sounding like every other yahoo on Craigslist who is trying to get something for nothing. "Seriously, you'll get tons of exposure from the project! I promise it's the best screenplay written in the history of ever!" That kind of blind trust is asking way too much of people.

So your first goal here is not to sound like that.

You're in ATL, so you have a nice cluster of colleges and universities closeby (and don't forget Chattanooga, which isn't far away). You might start by looking for production communities on those campuses. Students are often willing to jump into a project for the experience, and you might find some good talent in those pools both for casting and for crew.

Do you have any kind of reel? Anything you can show of what you've done before? If not, your claim of "this script is gold and will look stellar on your resumé" is worth even less since you have nothing but your word to back it up. In that case, it's even more important that you shift your sales pitch.

Focus on the project itself, and not what you claim it will do for the people involved. You have a script that you are very happy with. You want to see this thing happen. It's a labor of love. You are committed to seeing it through, and you've already nailed down locations. These are things that can help you gather a cast and crew.

The other place to try and network is the local indie community. I would start with the Atlanta 48 Hour Film Project. The festival is done for 2016, but the community is still out there.

Sell them on your passion and energy, not on hypothetical promises of exposure.
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As someone who often volunteers on movies what I'm mostly interested
in are the filming dates. Please do not take this as a dismissal; all film
makers think their script is gold and it will help my career so that
doesn't often come into my decision. When does it shoot and am I available
on those dates is what allows me to make a decision.
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What do you do in my shoes? How do you go about putting your team together with little to no money, and limited resources?
Far too many film makers with a great script and no budget and limited
resources try putting together a cast and crew on line without a start date
and then never make the movie. I know you can't really set a shoot date
so how about this:

Volunteer to work on other peoples projects. Make several short films.
In both cases you will meet like-minded people. You will show YOUR
willingness to help others with little to no money and limited resources.
Build your reputation in Atlanta and then this time next year you will
have plenty of people to draw from to help you.
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Very good points. I appreciate your feedback.
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Old 09-03-2016, 03:24 PM   #5
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Thank you! What websites would y'all recommend to use to get in touch with people to build a crew?
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No lens? really? Then how do you expect to shoot?
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Old 09-03-2016, 04:16 PM   #7
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Online, eh?

You do like this. You film your storyboard with your Blackberry, reading out loud your dialogue, edit it together with music, if that's what you have planned. Show it to people. When they say "the script is gold", the script is good. You buy these guys beer to shoot your opening scene and use this to find investors. When they say "the script is gold" and want to finance you, the script is gold.

Now, if you say that you couldn't convince people with your storyboard video, start rewriting your script.
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.........

(NOTE: If you're going to tell me I can't shoot a film like this, please don't comment. I want people's advice who can help with the situation I am in right now. Thank you. )

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You can't shoot a film like this without glass

IT is a pretty positive community, but don't expect us to be yay-saying sheep

How did you make your previous projects?
What do you want to be different this time?
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Old 09-04-2016, 02:09 PM   #9
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No lens? really? Then how do you expect to shoot?
I didn't ask for impertinent remarks and belittling responses. Please, unless you have something productive to say just leave this forum. How do you expect to shoot a film without actors? You get actors. How do you expect to shoot a film without a lens? You get a lense. The Black Magic Cinema Camera has a very common micro four thirds lens mount, which means you can use native MFT lenses from Olympus, Panasonic, Leica and more, or use commonly available adapters for Canon EF™, Nikon F™, ARRI PL™ or 16mm cine mount lenses. I'm sure there are plenty of people with some of those lenses. My question, what's a good way to build a team, and get everything I need on low budget.
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Online, eh?

You do like this. You film your storyboard with your Blackberry, reading out loud your dialogue, edit it together with music, if that's what you have planned. Show it to people. When they say "the script is gold", the script is good. You buy these guys beer to shoot your opening scene and use this to find investors. When they say "the script is gold" and want to finance you, the script is gold.

Now, if you say that you couldn't convince people with your storyboard video, start rewriting your script.
Thanks for the advice. That makes a lot of sense.
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Old 09-04-2016, 02:20 PM   #11
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Online, eh?

You do like this. You film your storyboard with your Blackberry, reading out loud your dialogue, edit it together with music, if that's what you have planned. Show it to people. When they say "the script is gold", the script is good. You buy these guys beer to shoot your opening scene and use this to find investors. When they say "the script is gold" and want to finance you, the script is gold.

Now, if you say that you couldn't convince people with your storyboard video, start rewriting your script.
Do you have an example of what a scored storyboard video would look like? Link would be awesome.
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Old 09-04-2016, 02:34 PM   #12
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This wonderful site and @indietalk recommended backstage. Its been a gem. I put a piece of the script on and women were applying, i got my male lead from Craigslist. Like a commentator mentioned you have to have a shooting date and location. Actors aren't versed on the gear but have something of quality for them to see is suffice. Work on your camera first. Get that squared away and just shoot. A nice character will give you an abundance of people to choose from.
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Do you have an example of what a scored storyboard video would look like? Link would be awesome.
Here's one made with an online software. This awesome service unfortunately doesn't exist anymore:

https://studios.amazon.com/projects/48750#player/90313
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:25 AM   #14
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Thank you! That's what I needed to see.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:25 AM   #15
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Is a monthly membership required for Backstage? Thanks for your input.
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