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Old 08-17-2004, 11:07 PM   #1
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My New Toy I Got

I know its not a DVX100 but then again I dont have near 4000 bucks to buy a camera right now.

But I think in about a year or more I will after I try and pay off my motorcycle. (Ill go through the same credit union)

But today I was walking through the county mall and drifted into Sears and saw the Panasonic GS120




Ill take a photo of it tomorrow with me holding it but its dark now and im charging the battery.

Its the lowest price 3CCD on the market and though it doesnt have any fancy modes Neccisary to make a good short film, it does have some decent resolution and very good color.

Just something to toy around with since my older panasonic seems to be too grainy to render 3D Objects (to make it look natural.)


I know some of you will say I should have kept saving for a better camera, but at the rate Im saving with all our bills it would have taken longer then next year, So My bike is my first priority to keep my credit good.


this is the camera if you want to read.

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...l%20Camcorders

Someone else on here was asking about it, if it was a good first camera to experiment with. Hell it was about mid price range compared to the single color chips in the store.

I even tried it out on the Display LCD screen. it has a built in simulation Cinima Mode that adds black bars (Not that Its practical for me) but when the HDTV monitor adjusted it for 16:9, it still looked high resolution in wide screen mode Without the black bars.
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:09 PM   #2
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The GS200 has a lot of the manual functions, including a focus ring. But it's about $300 more.

But these are supposed to be great cameras. I'm getting the 200 or the 400, when I've got the cash.
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:11 PM   #3
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The GS200 has a lot of the manual functions, including a focus ring. But it's about $300 more.

But these are supposed to be great cameras. I'm getting the 200 or the 400, when I've got the cash.
All that the 200 had that I notice that was different was the wireless mic/remote thing. Im not even sure exactly what it does.

Not sure about the 400 but it was 1400 bucks. Sears didnt have it.
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:31 PM   #4
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Cool. Make another UFO movie
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:36 PM   #5
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Cool. Make another UFO movie
hehe.. ok

Just got to write a little script first instead of just improvising.

but thats always fun too.
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Old 08-18-2004, 12:07 AM   #6
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though it doesnt have any fancy modes Neccisary to make a good short film
A good short film does not require fancy modes, let alone a fancy camera.

A well-written story will make up for almost anything, including bad actors, bad cameras, bad locations and bad breath. 8)

(Well, maybe not the bad breath part. Altoids-brand breath-strips will, though)

Still, it's always nice to get a new and improved camera. I second the idea of making some UFO movies. You sure do like that 3dMax!
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:37 AM   #7
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A well-written story will make up for almost anything, including bad actors, bad cameras, bad locations
I guess you could make that case if you are the screenwriter, but a film with bad acting, bad camera work, and bad locations is not well directed.
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:47 AM   #8
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Bad acting bothers me...even if the story intrigues me *cough* Star Wars i & ii *cough* Signs *cough*

...man, I gotta stop coughing onto the keyboard!

Aaanyway...a bad camera doesn't limit you that much. If you read reviews of that movie "Open Water", they all mention the poor DV video quality, but still praise the movie.

...You can also make up for bad/mediocre/not HD taping by having great sound and also after effects..

...just my two cents.

It's a great camera anyway, so it's all good.
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Old 08-18-2004, 02:15 AM   #9
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Meh, maybe I'm just easy to entertain.

If the story is good enough, I'm more than willing to overlook almost anything... especially in a non-Hollywood production.

The indie filmmaker that can tell a coherent & decent story, regardless of budget or gear, will have achieved more than any big-name director that pumps out a worthless hack of a tale.

Star Wars III and the next episode of "The Portal" will likely be out at the same time. I know which one I'll be watching. 8)
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You shouldn't limit yourself to the script to tell the story. No matter what the budget is, you can tell the story with the camera, lighting, art direction, acting, editing, AND the script. So many great stories are told through the lens. Filmmaking is storytelling -- screenwriting is story writing.
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Screenwriting is story writing
Exactly.

Everything else on top is icing on the cake, as it were.

Sure, it would be great if indie filmmakers had the budgets/actors/sets to make that story look as great as possible... unfortunately, for the most part they don't.

What does that leave? The basic underlying story to show.

If every indie short-film waited 'til grade-A actors, studio soundstages, union-crew and top-notch CGI renderers became available... nothing would get made in the indie scene. Nothing.

They take the story they believe in and run with with it. They get it made... and learn something in the process at least, even if the final visual result is... well... less than stellar.

(That's not to say that there isn't more than a fair share of crap scripts floating about, mind you.)

Edit: and stop editing your posts, right before I reply
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Edit: and stop editing your posts, right before I reply
LOL.

I agree to a point Zen. Of course great writing can shine through, but if the acting is really bad, the camera work is horrible, and editing sucks, no one is going to ask who directed it - they're going to ask who wrote it. No matter what your resources are, if you're a good director you should be able to get good performances out of your actors and work with the DP to help tell the story.
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:40 PM   #13
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Here is a pic of my cams I've now collected over the years.


Though my first camera was a 1978 betemax my stepdad gave me in 1983 this was the first real drop in tape camera I bought in 1989.


Toshiba Movie Video TK-F200 with flying erasehead




My Panasonic PV-DV400 with Infer Red Night Vision.


My new Panasonic GV120


Panasonic says this Leica dicomar lens is supposed to be pretty good. I wouldnt know but thats why Im here to learn




And of course my lunch, Tomato Soup and a Tilamook Grilled cheese sandwich that has nothing to do with this, But damn tastey non the less

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Old 08-18-2004, 02:31 PM   #14
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And of course my lunch, Tomato Soup and a Tilamook Grilled cheese sandwich that has nothing to do with this, But damn tastey non the less
Well, a filmmaker's gotta decide between hearty equipment and a hearty meal, right?
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Old 08-18-2004, 03:48 PM   #15
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Can I have both?
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