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Old 02-06-2018, 06:46 PM   #46
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If that stuff is getting millions of views, then incentivizing ONLY those creators wouldn't exactly lead to better content.
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If your video isn't monetized, then it severely hurts your SEO.

Even then, the main issue here is the principle. Like many have said, if this hurts you, then this probably wasn't a major source of income for you in the first place. The people protesting these changes KNOW this, so obviously money isn't the biggest problem here.

There are people who’ve been on YouTube a lot longer than the likes of Logan Paul, who don’t make his sort of clickbaity bullshit, who are now being excluded from the Partner program. These people are not the problem, they never were the problem, and excluding them isn’t going to fix the problem.

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Some wise words from the mussonman.

YouTube acts like banning bowling after Columbine: punishing people who are not related to the problem.
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Old 02-07-2018, 01:07 AM   #47
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If that stuff is getting millions of views, then incentivizing ONLY those creators wouldn't exactly lead to better content.



If your video isn't monetized, then it severely hurts your SEO.

Even then, the main issue here is the principle. Like many have said, if this hurts you, then this probably wasn't a major source of income for you in the first place. The people protesting these changes KNOW this, so obviously money isn't the biggest problem here.

There are people who’ve been on YouTube a lot longer than the likes of Logan Paul, who don’t make his sort of clickbaity bullshit, who are now being excluded from the Partner program. These people are not the problem, they never were the problem, and excluding them isn’t going to fix the problem.

Maybe this new Facebook thing will be the Messiah

https://qz.com/1199751/facebook-may-...-from-youtube/
Facebook will most probably be moving into the youtube market at some point.
Facebook wants it all man, did you know facebook is competing with twitch now ?

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facebook is already competing with YouTube by priotising facebook videos over YT-links and by using autoplay and a more biased viewcounter to make the reach of fb-video look even greater than YT than it is.
Unfortunately I think their compression looks horrible and the add system is a videokiller.
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:44 PM   #49
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The show Norm Macdonald Live is gone from YouTube, I think the videos were removed yesterday. I don't know how long they've been on Amazon Prime but they seem to be there now exclusively. It's a pretty good show. I gather the same thing happened before with Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee going to Hulu.

So it's like they tested their show on YouTube then made a deal with Amazon/Hulu.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:05 PM   #50
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The show Norm Macdonald Live is gone from YouTube, I think the videos were removed yesterday. I don't know how long they've been on Amazon Prime but they seem to be there now exclusively. It's a pretty good show. I gather the same thing happened before with Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee going to Hulu.

So it's like they tested their show on YouTube then made a deal with Amazon/Hulu.

Seinfeld's COMEDIANS IN CARS GETTING COFFEE originated with Sony's Crackle.com and only used Youtube for partial distribution. The 2nd season on included advertising inside the episodes. It was funded and paid for from day one.

Norm MacDonald's show was also funded by sponsors inside each episode.

Youtube Revenue sharing never factored much into either example you mentioned. They were properties from known celebrities and once they signed a new distribution deal, it would include exclusivity to the new outlets, of course that means yanking them from Youtube.
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Old 02-17-2018, 03:39 PM   #51
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Never heard of Crackle before. What do you think of it?
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Old 02-17-2018, 05:59 PM   #52
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I know Norm is getting a talk show with Netflix. The youtube podcast was basically an audition or proof of concept for that.
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I know Norm is getting a talk show with Netflix.
I hope it happens. I just saw Letterman has one episode of his own talk show there.
And Comedians in Coffee Getting Cars is there too, a Netflix original, not on Hulu I guess.
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Comedians In Cars was originally a Crackle original. I wonder how those rights shifted
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Apparently Netflix is paying Seinfeld $100 million to get those episodes, make 24 new ones, & 2 standup specials.
Must be nice to get paid that much when you probably already have a lot more in the bank. Is Netflix really making enough money to afford all this stuff they're producing?
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Yes, and it's also a future investment. At some point, everyone else is going to have their own streaming services and Netflix will need their own exclusive content


I think Seinfeld's show is also being funded by product placement. I can't imagine they wouldn't negotiate with the car companies for some cash to feature their vehicles and talk about them like they're the greatest thing ever
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:29 PM   #57
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At some point, everyone else is going to have their own streaming services and Netflix will need their own exclusive content
Ah right, like the Disney Fox streaming. They're gonna keep all the Fox, Disney, Marvel, Buena Vista, Touchstone films to themselves, pretty big draw.
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:24 AM   #58
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At least I can still link to external website.
New channels won't be able to do that untill new requirements are 'made up'.
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Tragic results for what looks like mentally unbalanced YouTuber.

39 yr. old female YouTuber Nasim Aghdam shot & injured 3 people before killing herself
at YouTube Headquarters in San Bruno, California.
She had been complaining for a while about YouTube's policies, saying her channels
were being censored & prevented from getting views. Her father told police that YouTube
had recently done something that “caused her to become upset & that may have been why
she was in the area." She had driven about 500 miles from her home in San Diego.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/t...e-shooter.html
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She had been complaining for a while about YouTube's policies, saying her channels
were being censored & prevented from getting views. Her father told police that YouTube
had recently done something that “caused her to become upset & that may have been why
she was in the area.
YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Google.... all of 'em are run by progressive / liberals who kick conservative speech to the curb through their algorithms.
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