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Old 03-26-2017, 09:49 AM   #16
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Sweetie,

I'm asking if a big- or mid-budget movie, say $10 million to $100 million, can make money on the internet. I'm not sure that it can. I don't want to run a streaming service, but I do want to tell stories and make a living at it, though I don't know if I should be telling stories on TV, Netflix, movie theatres, or Youtube.

Thanks as always for your input.
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:46 PM   #17
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That's the truth. Not good money if her costs exceed her revenue.
I can't imagine her costs even being $5k per week. But even at 10K
per week she's making $280k a year. It does not look like she is
spending $40,000 a month on those videos.

AM, it's clear from the example you posted that in order to make two
million a year on YouTube you need hundreds of thousands of subscribers
who watch every day.

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but I do want to tell stories and make a living at it, though I don't know if I should be telling stories on TV, Netflix, movie theatres, or Youtube.
There is a way to tell stories (and make money) on all of those platforms.
What Ms. Singh is doing is telling her story in her way. And it has been
quite successful, hasn't it? You should finish your script. It could end up
being the pilot of a Nextflix series, a TV series or a movie to be shown in
theaters.

Have you found any revenue info on feature films in that budget range
($10 million to $100 million) released directly on Netflix?
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Old 03-26-2017, 03:24 PM   #18
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Sweetie,

I'm asking if a big- or mid-budget movie, say $10 million to $100 million, can make money on the internet. I'm not sure that it can. I don't want to run a streaming service, but I do want to tell stories and make a living at it, though I don't know if I should be telling stories on TV, Netflix, movie theatres, or Youtube.

Thanks as always for your input.
They can. The system may not be invented yet, but it's possible that in the future there may be some platform that marries the concept of live-streaming with the concept of scheduled theater-going.

With current business models, it's possible for those movies to make money through good ol' fashioned sales or ad revenue, but not as likely. Especially big budget movies.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:58 AM   #19
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It does not look like she is spending $40,000 a month on those videos.
I honestly didn't look. If your words give me any indication, it's some vlog with meh production value. If that's the case, I'd agree with you.

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I'm asking if a big- or mid-budget movie, say $10 million to $100 million, can make money on the internet. I'm not sure that it can. I don't want to run a streaming service, but I do want to tell stories and make a living at it, though I don't know if I should be telling stories on TV, Netflix, movie theatres, or Youtube.
You can earn thousands of dollars putting a good feature on youtube.

I think the record for Netflix is $120m for The Irishman. I'm sure it's a production deal. Adam Sandler recently signed a 3 or 4 movie deal with them.

Netflix has increased its acquisition budget this year from 5 to 6 billion dollars.

You can look up the revenue for the theatres and make a decision.

So, yes, no, maybe. You can, maybe, probably, could be, depending... on... well... lots.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:10 AM   #20
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A Youtuber makes $2-4 per 1,000 views, according to this article, and, with a billion views, she may be making $2 million a year. So the internet can be monetized. I was told that there was no money to be made on the internet, but I am getting evidence that's simply not true, and I know a TV director who says it can be done.

I have to go back and rethink things through.
[ Yoda mode]
Survivor-bias this it
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Yes, there is money to be made on YouTube. Just like there is with music and narrative films.
What are the odds?
What was the context of 'there was no money to be made on the internet'?

This is no binairy question.
Yes: there is money to be made on internet.
The real question is how is this done and why do some succeed while others doing more or less the same fail?

Look at music on Spotify: a few artists take almost all of the revenue. Winner takes all.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:12 PM   #21
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My movie The Corpse That Wouldn't Live was just demonetized because it might be too extreme for Youtube. I would think it was PG 13 at worse. Advertisers don't want to associated with controversial material. That's something else to think about.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:13 AM   #22
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I heard that you make about $2,000 per 1 million views. Very few ever earn a serious living off YouTube.
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Old 03-28-2017, 01:24 AM   #23
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I heard that you make about $2,000 per 1 million views. Very few ever earn a serious living off YouTube.
Agreed, so this lady got a billion views, and she made $2 million.
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Old 03-28-2017, 09:10 AM   #24
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this lady got a billion views, and she made $2 million.
I guess you have your answer.

I'd love to see what you make of it.
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Old 03-28-2017, 12:35 PM   #25
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You don't need to post your videos of funny pets, news events, or ghost sightings, etc. on your own youtube channel to make money. Place it with a viral video or sell-your-story agency and they market it for you and license it to news outlets and take a cut. Go to Daily Mail's site every day and look at the photo credit at the corner of video stills for agency leads. These agencies pay you by PayPal.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:26 PM   #26
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That is NOT my interest. Those who said money cannot be made on the internet are referring to movies. Yes, with Netflix and Amazon, that has changed, but they are a different ball game than YT or the internet in general. At least, that's what they've told me, but I will keep an open mind.
Since doing what this woman is doing is NOT your interest but
you are asking if a big- or mid-budget movie, say $10 million
to $100 million, can make money on the internet have you done
much research on those numbers?

Like you I am interested in what filmmakers can do rather than
what someone like Ms. Singh has done. Do you have any relevant
numbers to post or is it true that filmmakers cannot make money
on the internet?
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:17 PM   #27
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Since doing what this woman is doing is NOT your interest but
you are asking if a big- or mid-budget movie, say $10 million
to $100 million, can make money on the internet have you done
much research on those numbers?

Like you I am interested in what filmmakers can do rather than
what someone like Ms. Singh has done. Do you have any relevant
numbers to post or is it true that filmmakers cannot make money
on the internet?
I haven't done any research, but I've asked Louise Levison, author of Filmmakers and Financing, and she said that, as far as she knows, no movie has made money on the internet (aside from any shown on Netflix and the like).
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Old 03-31-2017, 02:02 PM   #28
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Ms. Levinson is probably correct. Which make me wonder why this woman
who is not posting movies on Youtube makes you have to go back and rethink
things through. What are you rethinking?
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Old 03-31-2017, 02:27 PM   #29
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I already figured this out last year but took the plunge to start vlogging and mixing it in with filmmaking, its not perfect but im on the ball at least, I honestly think I will just stick with online content from now on whether it be short films, feature films or whatever, I will obviously wish that one film hits the big screens however I think that online is the future and the fact that I will be able to see live reaction and how many and where they are watching from is more exciting to me as an artist.
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:10 PM   #30
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Ms. Levinson is probably correct. Which make me wonder why this woman
who is not posting movies on Youtube makes you have to go back and rethink
things through. What are you rethinking?
Repetition is key to understanding. When you read something, you go back, reconsider all you have learned, and see if your initial conclusion is correct. I have to revise my knowledge of the law every so often, and that is routine.
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