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Old 11-13-2018, 08:52 AM   #16
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We don't know if you are talented... .. Tallent doesn't matter as long as you're English is not 100%. Lets explain it with ME as a example. It doesn't matter if I am talented manga artist.... changes of ME becoming a famous Mangaka in Japan are very slim if I don't speak or write Japanese... Talent is completely irrelevant if you don't speak the language....
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:55 AM   #17
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hmm, so, it doesn't matter I do film or not when it will be in English. I have problem convey my perceptions & meanings well enough. I had such problem w/ a writing partner...
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:58 AM   #18
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I can't describe it, & it is through not the best way. I think others can help you more...
This is dark and nonsensical. There is no value in your words! Bollocks.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:01 AM   #19
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We all approach these things differently.

I never describe myself as a "talented" writer. I DO say that I think I'm a good screenwriter, but that's because I've been working hard at it for more than 20 years. There are certainly plenty of people that won't like my writing - whether it's because of stylistic choices or subject matter - but they're entitled to their own opinion.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:46 AM   #20
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Am I wrong by saying people who deny I am talented in writing don't know whole of story? Others did not say anything about it,,

I will show you by detailed example in a new thread soon...

As far as I know, nobody here said you aren't talented. As a fellow Iranian to another ( I avoid speaking in persian cause we're in an english forum), I suggest you stop wondering about whether you're talented or not and start figuring out your priorities first. I read some of your posts when you were posting under the username of nobody. The questions you ask belong to somebody who hasn't figured out what they wanna do with their lives yet. It's like you are keeping all your options open and waiting for people to tell you in which of those options you are most talented so you can finally pick.

Let me tell you a harsh fact. Talent is sure important, but passion and fortitude is what that keep you going. Having mere talent is not enough to succeed in this industry. You need to have perseverance and consistency ( things that I sometimes have a problem with too). In order to succeed in the movie business or writing business you need to have a strong passion for CREATING. You are constantly asking if I'm talented. Lets say you are extremely talented. Then what? What are you willing to do with that talent inorder to make it in the movie industry? You can't make it if you don't have the fortitude and the willingness to keep going after each failure. So even if you have the talent you need to add the hardwork to your formula. That's why I'm suggesting you start figuring out your priorities in life. Do you ABSOLUTELY, with all your HEART love the art of creating. Do you want to do it as long as you're alive? If the answer is yes, then movie industry is for you. But if you want to pursue this career because you think you have the talent for it but you are not passionate enough about it, then I suggest that you put a more thorough thought to what you want to do in life.

PS. My english is not perfect. But I was an english teacher in a private institute for 2 years. Everybody there told me that I was really talented in teaching english to people whose mother's tongue isn't english. But because I wasn't passionate enough about teaching, I didn't succeed in it. Almost every other English teacher in Iran is more successful than me ( Business wise ) because they are more passionate about teaching than I am.


During these 3 years, you've been asking the same question over and over again.refusing to change anything. and I know where this mindset is coming from given the fact that I am an Iranian too. As you already know Iranians are famous for being lazy and being great procrastinators. There is a saying in persian which is " We Iranians expect thick wager for thin work". That's exactly your approach to the cinema industry. You haven't finished even one script in the standard hollywood format( and 120 pages), you haven't improved your english in this 3 years, you keep skipping from one script to another after writing the first 15 pages or so because you are not getting that dreamy applause you are expecting. Most Iranians spend all their lives waiting for that golden opportunity to happen and they justify their laziness and procrastination by saying that opportunity hasn't presented itself yet. Opportunity presents itself to those who seek it, you have to work for the opportunity, you need to earn it.

So bottom line is: figure out your priorities in life, find out what you are truly passionate about, if it's the art of creating movies and writing, then start improving your English ASAP. Then put all your man power into finishing one project in the standard hollywood format ( and 120 pages or so long) . After that start showing your script to professionals. Gather some notes and feedbacks. and based on that feedback, try to fix the errors professionals had pointed out.

Before I joined this forum, I thought my script was a masterpiece. both idea and execution wise. But after some professionals have read my script, they told me it's flaws that I wasn't at all aware of. I know you may think your ideas are masterpieces, and maybe they are. But I promise you without a proper formatting and editing and executing, that masterpiece is gonna loose it's potential. Because you simply couldn't portray what you had in your mind exactly. ( I have a thread about this matter in which I've questioned and challenged the worth of grammar and simply a perfect grasp of english if one is about succeeding in the hollywood industry, which eventually leads to me realizing that grammar and execution is as important as the idea. You can search it up and read it).
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:47 AM   #21
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Learning English needs free time & devotion & money.. I am not into it right now. I like learning from Films, I soon want to learn English of Phone Booth... Everything is ready, only a free time is needed...
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:08 AM   #22
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There is a value in my words. I am from a family who was secret Jewish migrating to Iran. I am famous enough that can say Even Coen Brothers know my family. Yes, I know it for sure. I can't reveal only. Some of family members who were Jewish now live around the world including USA.
So, I am known by Zionists including those in Hollywood, and not only it. You can ask famous Jewish filmmaker like Josee Dayan, does she know me? Yes.
I for example know things in Big Lebowski nobody knows. I can speak what they really mean, Plz see carpet which is symbol of Iran if you doubt.. Some know this...........
Hollywood knows me since I was 10...


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Old 11-13-2018, 10:40 AM   #23
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There is a value in my words. I am from a family who was secret Jewish migrating to Iran. I am famous enough that can say Even Coen Brothers know my family. Yes, I know it for sure. I can't reveal only. Some of family members who were Jewish now live around the world including USA.
So, I am known by Zionists including those in Hollywood, and not only it. You can ask famous Jewish filmmaker like Josee Dayan, does she know me? Yes.
I for example know things in Big Lebowski nobody knows. I can speak what they really mean, Plz see carpet which is symbol of Iran if you doubt.. Some know this...........
Hollywood knows me since I was 10...


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Indeed... you are a talented...
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:47 AM   #24
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Learning English needs free time & devotion & money.. I am not into it right now. I like learning from Films, I soon want to learn English of Phone Booth... Everything is ready, only a free time is needed...
An excellent excuse!

People who are "into it right now" will find the free time to learn
what is important to them. But you are not into it right now. When
you are into it you will find the time and do the work needed.
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Hollywood knows me since I was 10...
And Steven Spielberg read your writing and told you you were “very
smart even compared to Hollywood writers”. You are known in
Hollywood. You should use that to further your writing career. Why
do you keep making excuses? It doesn't matter to anyone (but you)
that you know something about a movie that no one else knows.
Use your connections to Hollywood and Spielberg! Find the time to
learn English. Write an excellent script. Use the fact that Hollywood
knows you since you were 10. Stop telling us why you can't do it
and do it!
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:38 PM   #25
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So, it is high time to rewrite openings of Rafael & GG in Proper English to find possible sponsor, is there anyone for helping me in that? Let's learn English while working... Agree it?


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Old 11-13-2018, 02:02 PM   #26
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So you want people to sent you money so you can learn englisch?
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:25 PM   #27
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So you want people to sent you money so you can learn englisch?
A project that has a certain future even without advance payment would be ok, together with my partner...
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Old 11-13-2018, 03:19 PM   #28
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That conversation is mind blowing! Project with certain future, rewrites, famous in Hollywood but still posting on a forum, Spielberg likes my script so I'm ready!

You are stuck on your English issues but there is an ocean of things you have to know to get in to Hollywood. Do you know the screenplay structure that Hollywood demands? Does your hero have a clear goal? Is he really a hero or he asks for solutions? Is your villain really "bad"? Do your characters arc? Are they each talk in their own way or all talk the same way? Is there conflict and emotional changing in all your scenes? Is there a clear midpoint? Is it in the middle of your script? Are there intense turning points in their proper place? Do you have a B story? Does your script intensify towards the end or just moving forward?

The author has a grand price from Hollywood screenplay contest with my first screenplay. According to your logic I'm great! But what exactly means that price or the good opinion that Spielberg has about your script or the excellent marks I always get in the concept from coverages, is that we have a very nice idea and execute it pretty nice. From that to sell the script to Hollywood there is a huge amount of work we need to do.

Stop that crying about your English, you are wasting your time. Write a screenplay, translate it, get a coverage, get knock out from the punches from the teachers, destroy your ego and then start studying so you do proper rewrites and not just re-write the same script.
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Old 11-13-2018, 03:27 PM   #29
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I will need to watch my repeatedly watched films dubbed to Persian in English. My English is only technical English of computer science, & a bit from High School & internet. I like to write in another Language to be fruitful in learning, not waste my time in writing Persian & make no money in a project without money. It is very loss-loss game for me. So, I try to improve my English by watching the memorized movies in English this time over and over & return later. I hope watching a few films like 3 or 4 suffices...



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Old 11-13-2018, 03:35 PM   #30
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I will need to watch my repeatedly watched films dubbed to Persian in English. My English is only technical English of computer science, & a bit from High School & internet. I like to write in another Language to be fruitful in learning, not waste my time in writing Persian & make no money in a project without money. It is very loss-loss game for me. So, I try to improve my English by watching the memorized movies in English this time over and over & return later. I hope watching a few films like 3 or 4 suffices...



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You need to understand what we're saying here before hitting the reply button. You are either picking a few words from our posts and reply based on your understandings of those few words, or you are reading the whole thing but didn't understand what it says. Panos is not saying you should make the script in Iran, he is saying because your english is weak you should write in persian , then translate it to english and after that start showing your script to people OUTSIDE of Iran.
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