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This will be the first installment of a series (not sure how many installments we'll end up doing).

The idea is to force the viewer to just sit there for once, without being completely overstimulated (which is a rare thing in today's culture). The visual effect I'm going for is in the same vein as the "Akhob" installation by James Turrell. When one stares at the same image for long enough, it begins to take on a life of its own. It becomes difficult to tell whether it is the image changing, or the eyes hallucinating (due to lack of stimulus).

Let me know what you think! This obviously isn't a moneymaking project, nor a viral video or anything like that. If even just one person experiences the desired effect, I'll be satisfied.

Sur, Sura, Sundari (everyone at this party probably hates you)


does anyone here do film/video for the sake of art? It seems like the big priorities of everybody here are money and recognition.
 
...or TERRY GILLIAM (i'm probably alone on this one, he is polarizing)

haha that's aside the point, ok to your short. i also appreciate that you're doing your own thing, it's important for us creatives to have the personal drive outside of making money and gaining popularity. this is another discussion entirely, but there is a balance that must be struck for professional creatives to work for themselves, work for the man, and work to advance the art form.

so how do we advance moving pictures as an art form? how do we focus on it as an art? does the art still entirely lie in the medium itself? what is the medium now? is it solely moving pictures still or are there elements of, audio, 3d, what about smellovision or the Willy-Wonka-miniturizing-food-o-vision? and what about monetization, isn't there are art to combining sales with movies? this is a can 'o worms that you've opened that i'll gladly pursue an argument (or discussion if you're more civilized than i, but i do have lots of thoughts about this and if nobody else is interested in it, pm me so we can get an email thread going or something) in, if you're keen haha

as far as what you've created specifically? i see it as something of a concept against montage and how we've been told stories/given meaning for the past century of filmmaking. you've taken the cut entirely out of what you're doing. this does force the viewer to stare and contemplate your subject matter and consider what you're trying to say/do with it. i wish you hadn't prefaced this video with saying your intention because i'm in the camp that thinks the creator and the viewer create meaning together, so i don't like that you took some of that away from me in this context (others not part of indietalk wont have this, so i think that's good). i think the biggest weakness is that you added the audio track, i think that so often filmmakers rely too strongly on their soundtracking choices (i do this too), but this is not to say that audio isn't important. for this piece, i think it'd have been better with really crisp audio from the room because then i would have been more focused on the subject matter rather than letting the audio push me into any sort of decision as to what you're saying-again this question of who makes meaning arises, you could have allowed for more meaning making collaboration between viewer and creator if you'd have made a different soundtracking decision. now, your subject matter is interesting for moving pictures because it is something moving at a high speed, fast moving this has always been a fascination of filmmakers (think muybridge/horses). think of it like maybe a hummingbird, there are a million different ways to shoot this, mainly the change of shutter speed will really affect how this looks, and each has it's own reason. this is something i think you could have played with more (very subtly of course) to get across your intended meaning (rather than your soundtracking choice). oh boy i have a lot of thoughts about your piece, it is very intriguing dissecting art films critically, but i think what my opinion boils down to is two things: 1) you should be more conscious of who makes meaning and how do we do this and what is the filmmakers responsibility, 2) you have two themes you worked with on this short, overstimulation and hallucination, i see where they intersect when you describe it in your post, but i did not see much of the critique of a over-arching cultural stimulation in the piece. the hallucination, letting an image take its own form, i do see, but not so much in connection with overstimulation.

wow, ok i hope that made sense. if not, you can at least be happy i'm taking the art seriously, right? haha anyway, looking forward to the next!
 
Wow, samwagner, that was absolutely lovely to read! I would love to continue talking on a public thread or PM.

Thank you for the input. Allowing the audience to create the meaning just as much as, if not more than the creator, makes total sense. This will affect the way I describe and publish films in the future; leaving it open to the audience to decide what it means to them. Come to think of it, this seems like a better way to get pleasant surprises when people describe the meaning of your art. When you describe it for them and then have them view it, they see and feel everything about the art through the lens of your perspective, which does the artist no favors. It's important to get feedback, and unexpected, random, surprising feedback.

The audio was just straight out of my camera, as I had to record this in my home while three cats and my girlfriend were home, all making a lot of noise. Additionally, the only way I have to record sound would be via the onboard mic so that's pretty much useless. I can't decide if I'd like it better with or without music, but it's a good thing to know how others feel about it.

I work with a production studio making adverts on LCD boards for casinos and restaurants, and doing a lot of stuff that is far off of being "creative" so it's an absolute necessity to use my craft for art, not just business.

Film has every art contained within it, this is why I love it. I also understand that many amateur videographers put out "artistic experimental" videos simply as an excuse for having quality content, so I understand that projects like this may not always be taken seriously. That's okay, if I connect with even just ONE other person, I feel I'm moving forward, engaging in my artistic life and experiencing my own feelings in an enhanced, often completely new way.
 
I lack the time to make experimental stuff, but I used to do it a lot as a student. (I still need to put more old stuff on YouTube.)
Now I must admit that I make videos for a living, but I do it because I like to make beautiful things and I love telling stories.

BTW, your link is not working.
 
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Film has every art contained within it, this is why I love it. I also understand that many amateur videographers put out "artistic experimental" videos simply as an excuse for having quality content, so I understand that projects like this may not always be taken seriously. That's okay, if I connect with even just ONE other person, I feel I'm moving forward, engaging in my artistic life and experiencing my own feelings in an enhanced, often completely new way.

This is a good observation.
When I was in art school I studied audiovisual design and made shorts, short documentaries, motion graphics and experimental stuff. There was also a division called 'autonomous art', where the people go to become an artist making things for the sake of art. (A lot of them become painters.) Most videos they made were amateuristic crap, because they paid no attention to the skills of filmmaking.
So a lot of people think of crappy weird stuff when you say experimental video.
Or that label is used for something that is just an experiment for the maker alone, but not for the medium.

But I think you can use aesthetics and technical skills to puch the medium to it's boundaries, to the fringes of storytelling and meaning. What does sound do to an audience? What does a cut do? What happens if you leave out characters and or action? What can you do with effects?

Experimental film is one of the oldest 'genres' in filmhistory.
My thesis was about the connection between experimental film and mainstream.
Although not as profound as I hoped it would be, it was a topic that was very hard to find any literature on.
It is still on my 'translte to English and share with the world'-list.

PS.
Terry Gilliam rocks!
 
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