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Old 10-26-2015, 05:15 AM   #91
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1. If seems to me that you have allowed the industry to kinda beat you down man. 2. And you want me to see things the way that you see. 3. I will not accept this invitation to your hallucination.
1. That's because you take everything which disagrees with your hallucination/delusions negatively! The industry has not "beat me down", despite it's many imperfections I still love my job. I've seen countless people come and go over the years, almost always because the reality of the industry is so different from the hype and their expectations of it. And, I've seen countless more who never got to experience the reality in the first place, because their "hallucination" of the industry precluded them from getting the opportunity.

1a. How anyone chooses to respond to the reality is up to them. My response, (where and how I find my personal fulfilment) is what allows me to still love my work. This is of course how it needs to be, reality is the way it is, if we allow it to beat us down then the issue is not with reality but with our personal response to it. To survive and find fulfilment, we have to adapt to and attempt to thrive in that reality because the alternative, denying reality, is an option which virtually never has a happy ending!

2. No, I'm just telling you some of the realities of the industry. How you choose to respond to those realities is entirely up to you (see #1a). Do you choose to adapt to reality and give your film a chance of success or do you choose to deny reality, put your "hallucinations" above the needs of your film and give it virtually no chance?

3. My "hallucination" is living in the commercial TV/Film industry for about the same amount of time as you've lived on this planet. Your hallucination on the other hand appears based on a combination of what you think you've "seen through the window" and wishful thinking. I'm not inviting you to become a member of my hallucination, I'm just telling you some of the realities of being a member and some of the application requirements. You apparently don't want to meet the application requirements or be a member of my hallucination though, you just want it to gift you a million dollars. Unfortunately for you, the rules of my hallucination don't allow it to gift millions of dollars to people who can't or won't meet the application requirements, sorry.

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I hope I never see things the way that you see them.
That unambiguously answers point #2!!

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And you should probably stop responding ...
True, I probably should.

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Old 10-26-2015, 05:20 AM   #92
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Well for starters there isn't a role for Ms. Streep in my film LOL.
Yep, that's a no

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I want to put out work that I know is good.
If that is the case, there's a real large chance that what you're trying to achieve won't acquire the financing you require. There's nothing wrong with your decision, so long as you know the consequence of that decision. You're chasing dumb money. There's also nothing wrong with that. Knowing that fact will help you work out what you need to do.

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I disagree with that. Listen to great leaders like Joe Gibbs, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, Tony Stewart, and etc the common factor is that they had great people around them that they loved and cared for. Check out a book called leaders eat last.
You can disagree. There are many leadership methods. Many ways to achieve the result. Steve Jobs had a really early success with the Apple IIe. After his success he took up a position of "It's his way or the highway" - (Coincidentally I see you taking a similar stance, without the preceding success) He had many really smart people around him who advised him against it and he still built the Lisa. That and his belligerent nature were all contributing factors to why he was fired from his own company.

After he wrangled himself back into Apple, I understand he conformed his leadership style to a more traditional method.

Keep absorbing leadership material. Don't take any one source as gospel. You'll eventually develop your own style that works for you.

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How do you know my talent is proven?
I believe he means unproven. You have no coveted awards from tier 1 festivals. No box office earnings behind you. That gives you no track record, hence unproven. Just so you're clear what that means. It's not a sign of disrespect, just the current state of affairs. Like a light switch. On (Proven) of Off (Unproven).

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A lot of that is true. But again, I have a choice of who I work with. I am just going to be very selective.
I'm going to leave you with one last thought. You're just like me. You're a nobody. You're expecting the world to accept your rather odd modus operandi. You say you'll be picky with who (and how) you work with. What makes you think that investors don't think the same way? What makes you a better investment than the other 5 pitches today that are also requesting an investment? When you're talking investors, that's the world we live in.

Pro Tip: If you're looking for dumb money, go to the casino/racetrack. There's crap tonnes of it there.
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Old 10-26-2015, 09:52 AM   #93
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You know what? I am sure that the great people that I mentioned didn't waste their time on an internet forum. So I won't either. I will continue doing what I need to do to make my film.

I will say that I like how you guys are selectively responding, especially Sweetie. You gave me a soft jab with the Meryl Streep comment (if you read my script you'd see that the oldest character is in their 20s, Meryl is a great actress, but there ain't t nothing in there for her and I wouldn't create a project just to have a star in there), But you didn't say anything about the manager of an actress on the rise getting back to me or me talking to Lindsay Lohan's people.

Haters are motivators! See you guys and gals at the movies!
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:10 AM   #94
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You know what? I am sure that the great people that I mentioned didn't waste their time on an internet forum.........
At least not when they started, because it didn't exist in the form it exists today

I hope you'll come back to share your experiences
And it would be cool to see you succeed.

Make sure Lindsay is clean when you work with her; addicts are power play champions...
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Old 10-26-2015, 10:29 AM   #95
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Yep, that's a no




If that is the case, there's a real large chance that what you're trying to achieve won't acquire the financing you require. There's nothing wrong with your decision, so long as you know the consequence of that decision. You're chasing dumb money. There's also nothing wrong with that. Knowing that fact will help you work out what you need to do.



You can disagree. There are many leadership methods. Many ways to achieve the result. Steve Jobs had a really early success with the Apple IIe. After his success he took up a position of "It's his way or the highway" - (Coincidentally I see you taking a similar stance, without the preceding success) He had many really smart people around him who advised him against it and he still built the Lisa. That and his belligerent nature were all contributing factors to why he was fired from his own company.

After he wrangled himself back into Apple, I understand he conformed his leadership style to a more traditional method.

Keep absorbing leadership material. Don't take any one source as gospel. You'll eventually develop your own style that works for you.



I believe he means unproven. You have no coveted awards from tier 1 festivals. No box office earnings behind you. That gives you no track record, hence unproven. Just so you're clear what that means. It's not a sign of disrespect, just the current state of affairs. Like a light switch. On (Proven) of Off (Unproven).



I'm going to leave you with one last thought. You're just like me. You're a nobody. You're expecting the world to accept your rather odd modus operandi. You say you'll be picky with who (and how) you work with. What makes you think that investors don't think the same way? What makes you a better investment than the other 5 pitches today that are also requesting an investment? When you're talking investors, that's the world we live in.

Pro Tip: If you're looking for dumb money, go to the casino/racetrack. There's crap tonnes of it there.
Nobody's dont really expect success tho. Like i said pipe dreams.
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Old 10-26-2015, 02:11 PM   #96
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You know what? I am sure that the great people that I mentioned didn't waste their time on an internet forum. So I won't either.
You keep saying this but you keep coming back.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:06 PM   #97
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People have given a lot of good advice based on their own experiences. There are always exceptions to all rules, but the odds are very slim. Most people have producing partners with experience in the industry. They have the experience and connections to help get the financing.
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Old 10-26-2015, 06:54 PM   #98
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You know what? I am sure that the great people that I mentioned didn't waste their time on an internet forum. So I won't either. I will continue doing what I need to do to make my film.

I will say that I like how you guys are selectively responding, especially Sweetie. You gave me a soft jab with the Meryl Streep comment (if you read my script you'd see that the oldest character is in their 20s, Meryl is a great actress, but there ain't t nothing in there for her and I wouldn't create a project just to have a star in there), But you didn't say anything about the manager of an actress on the rise getting back to me or me talking to Lindsay Lohan's people.

Haters are motivators! See you guys and gals at the movies!
your an ignorant kid. . and its obvious you're not great.
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Old 10-26-2015, 07:14 PM   #99
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I have to say this is most likely in my top five favorite threads. You guys are all so wonderful.

Sweetie, for his sake I hope he pulls a jrusso on you and finds his funding despite the obvious flaws.

Theauteur, you're a few years older than me, but we've been in the world solo for the same amount of time. Your ideology on life is a bit more positive than mine. I certainly would bail on a project if the money didn't seem promising or if a better pay came along. Hell, if a better sounding project came along (like a named director working it) I'd bail for less pay.

Also at Full Sail I've learned that the people you get along with most... might just suck at filmmaking... or suck at doing what they like... The people you don't get along with might be great at it. I'd rather work with my classmates that are good and we hate enough other the whole time... Film crews don't have to have chemistry, it's why we have the hierarchy.

These are my two cents bro... I've enjoyed reading this thread and wish you the best. The chances are near impossible, prove the odds wrong.
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Old 10-27-2015, 03:50 AM   #100
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I hope he pulls a jrusso on you and finds his funding despite the obvious flaws.
While it might not sound like it, I do too.

I still follow jrusso. I haven't chatted with him for a little while. He's got himself some high paying programming job from the looks of it. Good for him. Not sure what that'll mean for the film.
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Old 01-20-2016, 11:53 AM   #101
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How did this end up? I would love to know.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:13 AM   #102
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Well things have been progressing pretty well.

I've gotten an eager producer on board with some very good connects. We are now speaking with investors. We are looking to make a prequel short film to show to some of these investors as well to help our case.

I've cast my lead actresses. Finding the other male actors has been more of a challenge. But perhaps we can get some sort of name for those roles.

After some calculations I came up with a figure that was well below $1 million. Actually below $500,000. The goal is to now not exceed $500,000.

We've also gotten a great DP and a great composer on board as well.

Things are actually going pretty smoothly. I quite enjoy pre production. Having a real producer has freed me up a bit too. I can focus more of the story, ideas, and my performance.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:53 PM   #104
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This is great news! In just over 3 months you've gone from producers flaking
on you to an eager producer with good connections. And some cast and crew.
Glad to hear things have worked out so well.
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