M.o.Mo. Club: "Ink"

Looks like you can watch it free from here: http://www.novamov.com/video/k2uaucws8btlb
Ignore the subtitles. ;)


Tiny homework: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/trivia
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/man_from_earth/ - Comments are interesting.
http://www.manfromearth.com/index2.html
http://www.philfilms.utm.edu/1/man-earth.htm

This story seems to impress a lot of people much like PRIMER did.
I just watched that the other day (wasn't impressed with the story) and will find it interesting to see what $200k bought that $7k (reported, of course) couldn't.
 
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These are very different suggestions and I am excited which one will win.

I will try to watch "Ink" this week to throw in my thoughts about it...
 
Dreadylocks said:
I'm gonna need to think about this one. But I know I'm not voting for Man From Earth. That movie blew.
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For me that's EXACTLY the point.

It's an autopsy rather than art appreciation.
Why did the the patient die?, not just that the patient died.
Why did the plane crash?
Why did the bridge collapse?
Why did Bob get crabs in a monogamous relationship?

I'm quite sure the "film" blows chunks out the porthole.
Does the story suck because of the lame premise?
Was it a fine premise poorly developed?
Does the story suck because the writer or director kinda failed at A, B, and/or C?
How would each of us salvage this soup sandwich?
Would nudity in the beginning and explosions in the end really help?
Kick it up or down a MPAA level?

What makes the cinematography suck?
Has too much shaky cam.
Has too many tripod shots.
Needs more track shots.
Needs more close ups.
Needs better lighting.
Needs to get these farts outta the house.

Would better actors make the story better?
It was shot in SD. Whoopteedoo. Whould HD make it any better?

Could we pick one scene and shoot it better ourselves?

INK had both story and execution issues.
Many of us bagged and tagged the overexposed blow outs and bizarro color selection decisions.
But many of the shots were just composed... weird, that no one here really could explain the math behind, although it did look fine to some.

I want to know how to NOT make a sucky film.
 
I'm actually genuinely interested in "Man from Earth", though Dready's non-recommendation does worry me.

Should it end up sucking, then yeah, I'll ask all of those questions you mention, rayw, but I wouldn't intentionally watch a shitty movie just for the sake of figuring out why it's shitty. I still want to be entertained, and for me at least, this club is intended to be fun, not work.

Plus, I much prefer to learn how to be a good filmmaker by watching good films and mimicking the stuff I like, not so much by avoiding stuff I don't like in crappy films.

As of now, it looks like we'll finally have a close vote. With that being the case, I think I need to set a hard deadline -- voting ends at 12:01 AM, EST, this Thursday (late-night Wednesday).
 
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We need a tie-breaker! The deadline for voting has passed, and we're all tied-up.

Eight people have voted, and I assume all eight of those people intend to take part in the discussion. If there is anyone who is on the fence, thought maybe you wanted to take part, but your not 100% sure -- that's cool, you are encouraged to vote. :)

Vote Here

The new tie-breaker deadline is midnight, tonight, EST.
 
Wow.
13 Assassins breaks ahead in a 5 to 3 lead.
Bagged & Tagged.


I really didn't WANT to watch the M from E cr@pfest anyway.
God, spare me that fate, please.

I just watched this film two months ago:
rayw said:
13 Assassins - 7.5/10

The technical execution (no pun intended) is fairly decent, the story is more than mildly interesting, I'm just not a giant samurai/ninja/kung-fu fan but feel the need to expand my current film dietary range.
The eventual actual assassination following a pretty lame peer-to-peer confrontation was pretty lame, though.
I suppose if someone was wanting to add to their samurai/ninja/kung-fu film diet this would be pretty good, but not as general audience entertainment.
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I'll do some more homework before watching it again.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=13assassins.htm Little love in the States.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1436045/technical
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0586281/ Good Lord. The director is a prolific madman.

I recall from the DVD extra interview with Miike that he was pretty fruity acting. Can't wait to read these.
http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/must-read-our-interview-with-13-assassins-director-takashi-miike/
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49441
http://www.easternkicks.com/features/takashi-miike-interview-for-13-assassins
http://twitchfilm.com/interviews/2011/04/takashi-miike-talks-13-assassins-and-more.php
 
Finally I managed to sit down and watch "Ink". In fact I watched it till 1:13 and it's still running while I am writing. Hope I am not too late with my critic.
Well, summing up I have to admit that I have no idea what this film is about.

Some notes (chronological):
- the building in the beginning looks very CGI
- after about 4 - 6 min. I still have no idea what is going on. Is this a music video? A trailer? Will there be any dialog?
- Ink uses a bongo drum to open some kind of portal?? Oh come on, seriously?
- the fight when Ink is in Emmas bedroom has some nice effects
- the dialog around min. 20 makes my head ache, terrible cuts
- shaky cam, yeah :hmm:
...stopped making notes and realized I need another beer...or aspirin...crack, anything that makes me understand that movie or at least make me like it.

From an indie filmmakers point of view, you see they put a lot of effort into it. Further I think the actors and director did a good job. But it's hard to understand what they wanted to tell the audience. To me, it seems like an over the top, pseudo phylosophic mix of an art film and a music video.

What I learned from watching "Ink": Write a good story and figure out how to tell it properly. Come to the point, don't mess around with endless meaningless scenes.

Btw, this Ink guy is ugly as hell. Why does he need to have his genitals in his face?
 
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