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Old 08-07-2010, 02:39 PM   #16
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Oh, hi maralyn, nice to meet you! Welcome to the forum. "How to Train Your Dragon" was written using Blake Snyder's methods. A lot of people like that movie. It's not a mathmatical formula. You still have to make it somehow unique. I think "structure" is a better word to describe it.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:45 PM   #17
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yea, well, I can name a few movies that were written without that formula .....

don't be so afraid of your own mind.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:48 PM   #18
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What an entering statement Maralyn. I'm assuming this is the whole "Hollywood is the man" scenario.

Structure is a must, both in production/planning to distribute to anybody beyond your four walls. The "Tripe" that you're referring to, would be "The Story", and that falls down to only you.

There's no generic link between a template format and the method of storytelling.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:50 PM   #19
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Again, I think "formula" is a poor word to describe it. maralyn, do you believe in the three-act structure? Cuz if you do, then you're using, in these terms, a formula. It's just that Snyder's structure is considerably more specific than just three acts, and it can be a really effective way for someone to piece their story together.

Accusing us of being scared to use our own minds might not be your best introduction to these threads. You wanna back up and try that again? There are lots of very creative people here.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:50 PM   #20
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blah blah blah blah

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Old 08-07-2010, 02:51 PM   #21
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Oh, well. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:53 PM   #22
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Wow.

So, Cracker, tea?
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:55 PM   #23
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It's not a story unless it has its own structure
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:01 PM   #24
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So the millions of novels are less becoming because their structure is one? The screenplays that have lead to such colossal inspiration worldwide, for generations, these are not partnered with the art of storytelling?

Beginning. Middle. End.

That's not just a structure, that's life.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:05 PM   #25
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yea, well, but, maybe its ok to decide for yourself where the beginning,. and the end and the middle are, in relation to each other.

If it's structured to formula it's not a story.

It's... um.... tripe,
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:07 PM   #26
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Interesting, really.

So, Cracker, about that tea.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:10 PM   #27
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yea, about that tea.

What's happened to this place.

Indietalk is now encouraging the following of hollywood formula.

Oh, that's just great.

Yea, let's dum down indie as well.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:56 PM   #28
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I think you got to consider what hollywood considers a good formula. You don't have to follow it. But obviously it is successful because a lot of hollywood movies have a similar arc it seems to me.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:02 PM   #29
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I think it just puts a lot of destructive noise between your ears.

And all of this rubbish about "what hollywood wants", it's just the internet feeding your insecurities.

And new writers are gullible, and vulnerable, and they listen to that crap.

Every story should have it's own process.

Or it's not relevant.

It's, er, how'd ya say.... tripe.

It's like asking a child what they want to be when they grow up. It's not the reality of who they become.

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Old 08-07-2010, 04:47 PM   #30
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Uh, yeah.....

And your idea of a story that is not formulaic is......

btw, we don't try to insult people here, especially if you can't back up what your point is....whichi you have yet to do.


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