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Old 01-13-2019, 11:57 PM   #1
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Sound kit: Is there any point in...

So I've been using a Mix Pre-D with fantastic results. Due to it's analogue limiters, it has saved me more on lots of different occasions and for field work, it's small, tougher than my ex-wife's divorce lawyer and allows me to get quality audio for interviews in difficult situations.

It has allowed me to take audio directly into a camera and strangely enough, as a lighting camera op, this has been critical. When shooting for a studio with a C-stand mounted Mkh 416, I've been in a position to get good interview sound.

I also have a portable recorder which is a Zoom H4N which has saved my butt on a couple of occasions. For some reason, I have had some recording issues because my on-camera recorder (Odyssey 7Q+) malfunctioned when recording sound.

Now, I want a four-track (even six track), portable recorder and am looking at a Zoom F4. The four tracks are 'just in case' because I primarily shoot interviews and the occasional boomed in bit of narrative. However, I would like the additional option.

Would you hook up the Mix Pre-D to an F4N? Are there any issues with this? I can see only positives because it would save a little battery life on the F4N when using phantom and the analogue anti-clipping devices on the SD are waaayy better than the digital anti-clipping tech on the F4N (cheap and nasty). Also, the SD could take more of the pre-amp heavy lifting meaning less emphasis on the F4N's pres which aren't as good.

In addition, if I ever am in a situation where I suddenly have to mic up 4 - 6 interviewers, I have the flexibility.

What do you think?
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:34 AM   #2
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Have you considered the MixPre-6? It costs a little more, but it’s worth it.

The F4 isn’t terrible, but Sound Devices has them beat on overall sound quality. While the Zoom offers hybrid limiters, the MixPre-6 has Sound Devices’ “unclippable” analog limiters. The pre-amps are better, too, as is the headphone amp.

Heck... you could sell your MixPre-D and pay off well over half the MixPre-6.
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:18 AM   #3
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Have you considered the MixPre-6? It costs a little more, but it’s worth it.

The F4 isn’t terrible, but Sound Devices has them beat on overall sound quality. While the Zoom offers hybrid limiters, the MixPre-6 has Sound Devices’ “unclippable” analog limiters. The pre-amps are better, too, as is the headphone amp.

Heck... you could sell your MixPre-D and pay off well over half the MixPre-6.
My thought process in getting to the F4N is:

If I buy used, and literally 'perfect' condition, it is maybe 40% of the price. And I have more versatility because the F4 can then be a backup.

If I use the analogue limiters on the Mix Pre-D with the low cuts, I can feed it straight into the camera and get fantastic sound. I can then split the signal and push it into the F4N which means the F4N's biggest limitation (the digital pres) are negated. So I can have my cake and eat it.

And on the one day per year when I need to use six inputs (literally happens once every couple of years for me), I can bite the bullet. It's not a biggie unless one of those interviewees decides to start shouting...

And at the moment, I need every penny I can get for my marketing campaigns.

So on balance, unless I'm being completely crazy, I'd go with the F4N unless there's an issue combining it with a Mix Pre-D. Sure, I'd prefer to just buy the Mix Pre-6 outright and add it to the stable of stuff I have but I don't need it.
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