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Old 04-07-2014, 01:21 AM   #46
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I'm in there like swimwear! In Richmond, I can definitely gather a few cats together for a short. People in their 20s, that's who I can reliably wrangle. For something of this nature, I'd say the cast on my end would top out at 4 people.

If any of you East-Coast cats wanna meet somewhere central, I'd be overjoyed to join an IT production team. sfoster and IDOM, how would you feel about shooting in either Baltimore or DC? Philly would be a bit too far for me to make a day-trip (or even a two-day trip for this). I'd actually prefer that, instead of shooting on my own in RVA. (note - if I were to travel to Baltimore or DC for a one or two day shoot, it'd have to not be on the weekend)

Of course I can also lend my editing skills. Around the same time-frame, I've got my first actual paid filmmaking gig, so of course that comes first, but it sounds like this would not be too huge a commitment.

Hey, all you MAYBES -- peer pressure, peer pressure, all the cool kids are doing it, peer pressure!
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Old 04-07-2014, 01:31 AM   #47
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Baltimore wouldn't be a problem for me, 30 minute drive.
I also have access to a nice pool and woods where I'm at.. in baltimore i have a friend that owns a sushi restaurant

A weekday shoot may be harder for some of my crew but not an issue for me. This seems to be more about IT regulars anyway, if my usual people are busy that doesn't bother me.

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Old 04-07-2014, 02:18 AM   #48
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Exactly! Although, I'm not sure a BTS doc is the best or most practical format. For example, I don't own a decent video camera and even if I did, I work in a darkened room (with the film being projected) and seeing the actual detail of the precise tools I'm using and how I'm using them would be boring to watch and not applicable to most no budget indie filmmakers anyway. I believe it's the process which would be invaluable......

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A video diary could be cool: venting your frustration about the poor sound or strange language from the Dutch Division

If it will become a longer BTS documentary, some frustrations, errors and problems will keep things interested

About marketing:
at least in every area a team is working the local/national press should be informed when shooting starts (so they can send someone for an interview and a picture), when it's shot (we send our own picture(s) ), when it's finished and when it's released. Local press like local news, but since it's an international project it could attract 'larger coverage'.
We can send published articles with the second, third and fourth press release.

And don't forget blogs and magazines.

A dedicated Twitter account to share pictures, messages, short (BTS) clips from a dedicated YT channel (I could make a channel and make a few people administrator, but I guess I'm not the only YT-partner here who can manage up to 50 channels).


About genre:
something needs to connect all the locations.
I'm going to send Nick a (weird?) suggestion
And it's a little bit of sci-fi, hopefully it can be done without leaning too much on VFX.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:40 AM   #49
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A lot of really good suggestions coming through, both in terms of the project's nature (don't worry, I've taken them all onboard) and also marketing/BTS stuff.

My personal opinion is that an open thread detailing the process will inevitably come about, but it can't be regulated for quality and may become unruly (this thread is already 4 pages long) which makes it hard for prospective filmmakers to digest. The benefit of doing a BTS video is that A) filmmakers tend to prefer to watch a video than read a long rambling thread, and B) it presents the project in its intended arena.

I'd suggest that those without access to cameras record an audio track which can be laid over footage from the film, BTS stuff, script annotations...etc, to give it a visual edge. I don't think not having a camera would necessarily be a problem. There are plenty of good documentaries (I'm thinking things like Senna) where you never see the talking heads, just hear their voices.

@WalterB: You certainly seem to have some great ideas for marketing. I'm thinking that we should perhaps come up with a name for the project (not the film itself) so that we can start thinking about how to promote it. Because we're going to be chronicling the process from start to finish, there's no reason we can't kick off straight away. Any ideas?
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:02 AM   #50
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I will certainly contribute to the project in whatever way I can be of use -- hopefully in a useful capacity -- assuming it can done on a shoestring.

* meant to add that I'm still new to the Boston area so I don't know that many (hardly any) actors yet. Working on that...

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Old 04-07-2014, 07:52 AM   #51
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There definitely seem to be a good number of people who want to participate in this which is great. I'm going to start thinking more practically about the script in the next couple of days. Those people who are down for taking part in the project, I'd like you to fill out this form (this is only for shooting units, I will do another form for post-production) to facilitate crafting the script to our resources:

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Old 04-07-2014, 08:09 AM   #52
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Just read the form. Hadn't thought about the mockumentary (comedy of course) genre, but that seems like it might be the most forgiving in terms of production quality as well as collecting a disparate mix of footage from all over the globe, which lends itself to a documentary feel. #thumbsupforthat

The "found footage" genre plays into this, too.

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Old 04-07-2014, 10:32 AM   #53
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'Global Movie Experience' is the first 'project name' that pops into my mind.

About the marketing ideas: after 7 years running my own company I should have collected some knowledge and ideas, I guess
A lot is common sense, but people tend to overlook things like local press. Everyone seems focussed on social media alone nowadays, while there is a partly different audience to reach out to as well. Besides that: TV shows still read papers to find subjects.

From a marketing perspective it could be cool to make a promo / trailer with shots from previous projects of different teams to announce the project while writing isn't even finished yet. Maybe even some very short quotes from 'interviews' with different directors.
However this marketing effort will be intereting and educational we all must bear in mind this will take time to do as well. It's not something I can do all by myself: I have a business to run as well.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:02 AM   #54
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Just to stay ahead of 'pirates':
tweeps can follow the project's Twitter: http://twitter.com/@GlobalMovieXp
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:17 PM   #55
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I'm loving where this thread is going. Personally I'm still mulling over what resources I could guarantee filming wise.

However, if we want to have a more controlled and cohesive thing to follow (besides a thread on here) I have some passable skills in web design and could set up and take care of the technical side of the blog. I've got plenty of server space.

I'm not much of a copy writer but I can collate posts from the different units (off the top of my head I think it would be good to "name" the units even if it's just Unit A or Team New England, something straight forward), and get stuff streamlined in format and posted on the site.

As far as the project goes I definitely think the nature of the project should be self-evident in the name. So, world, global, united, film, indie, collective, etc. My first thought was something along the lines of 'Worldwide Film Cooperative' ... idk, just shooting ideas in the dark.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:37 PM   #56
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Just to confirm, met with my core team and we're definitely on board. Answered your Google doc survey as specifically as I could. Truth is we have a wealth of exterior location options, and sourcing interiors may also be possible. Similarly we are spoiled for choice when it comes to actors in this area.
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Just read the form. Hadn't thought about the mockumentary (comedy of course) genre, but that seems like it might be the most forgiving in terms of production quality as well as collecting a disparate mix of footage from all over the globe, which lends itself to a documentary feel. #thumbsupforthat

The "found footage" genre plays into this, too.
I agree that this is perhaps the easiest route to go, but I think that it's, in a way, a bit lazy. Obviously, it's a great way of making sure that footage matching isn't a problem, and of reconciling differences in quality, but at the same time it's not a very good test of filmmaking on a practical level. FrankLad did a great mockumentary 'Hickory Never Bleeds' because it was really consistent in its aesthetic, but I've seen some crowd sourced documentary work which is just all over the place and a little lazy.

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Just to stay ahead of 'pirates':
tweeps can follow the project's Twitter: http://twitter.com/@GlobalMovieXp
Ha, great, we can broadcast to our three followers!

Thanks to those who have already filled in the form, it's really useful to me. Would be great if more of you would fill it in as it also contains information about people's genre preferences and how much they feel is realistic to shoot.

Tomorrow, I will pitch a couple of loglines in order to get feedback and responses about them before I develop anything further. And, obviously, there's still plenty more time for people to sign up, and for those Maybes to turn into big ol' Yeses!
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Ha, great, we can broadcast to our three followers!
Of which 2 of them are you and I :p
It's just a start, I hope...

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Thanks to those who have already filled in the form, it's really useful to me. Would be great if more of you would fill it in as it also contains information about people's genre preferences and how much they feel is realistic to shoot.

Tomorrow, I will pitch a couple of loglines in order to get feedback and responses about them before I develop anything further. And, obviously, there's still plenty more time for people to sign up, and for those Maybes to turn into big ol' Yeses!
I'm curious!

I still need to contact my 'resources': it's busy with work in here.
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Of which 2 of them are you and I :p
It's just a start, I hope...
My twitter is a ghost ship, but I logged in 'specially for you guys
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I agree that this is perhaps the easiest route to go, but I think that it's, in a way, a bit lazy. Obviously, it's a great way of making sure that footage matching isn't a problem, and of reconciling differences in quality, but at the same time it's not a very good test of filmmaking on a practical level. FrankLad did a great mockumentary 'Hickory Never Bleeds' because it was really consistent in its aesthetic, but I've seen some crowd sourced documentary work which is just all over the place and a little lazy.
If I may ...

I totally agree with this. I don't think we should try to explain away the differences in <resources/experience> by conforming to a genre where that necessarily makes sense. Think of it not so much as "what gear/experience" a given unit is working with, but "what look" can that unit create and how can that work within a given part of the larger narrative.

We're always telling folks around here to not get so caught up in gear obsessions, focus on storytelling, and work with what's best suited to their available resources. Without trying to derail this conversation into that one (there are plenty of copies of it in the camera section for those who want a recap, lol) maybe we should put our money where our mouth is and not worry about it so much?

Sound, Prod Design, and Lighting differences will be the most notable anyway, but I'm not sure the differences will be wide enough to warrant constraining ourselves into "explaining" it away with genre.

Just a thought.
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