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Old 09-08-2017, 10:35 AM   #16
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I live in Israel. Do you know Israeli directors? Not the Israeli A list. Do you need the names?
Not if you don't want to. I'm just curious about your experience and
your knowledge.

Perhaps in Israel a writer must be a director in order to write movies.
I know very little about the business of filmmaking in your country. I'm
always interested in how it works outside of the U.S. I was offering
opinion based on my experience and knowledge here in the States.
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Old 09-08-2017, 10:40 AM   #17
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Go to filmmaker meetups and make friends with filmmakers. A few years ago I was begging for content to film. I love brainstorming ideas but I hate writing scripts, so I went to all my friends that were writers and couldn't get any of them to bite. So here I am 3 years later writing my own shorts because nobody I know likes writing enough. I was offering money and still no takers. So meet filmmakers. Shop your idea and if someone is interested in making it, they'll let you know.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:11 AM   #18
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What you are describing is "Filmmakers". So yes, you often write, direct, edit etc. "Filmmakers" not directors, not editors, not prop masters, not screenwriters, even though they have those titles. But sure, they write. They have a passion to make a movie. Another analogy. A restaurateur will often head chef, line cook, market, manage, and even wash dishes. It's about passion. Do you have the passion to make movies or write movies? Period.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:13 AM   #19
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You make a lot of sense Inarius. But, but, but. Here's where you go wrong - on the most deciding factor. You don't have to spend SOOO much money. It's the other way around. People will send trucks loaded with cash to your door and empty it in your garage and when that is full they'll shovel the rest on your backyard pool. So, what's wrong with directing? Nothing.
Not in my country. Here you have to fight for every dime a make a film.

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Not if you don't want to. I'm just curious about your experience and
your knowledge.

Perhaps in Israel a writer must be a director in order to write movies.
I know very little about the business of filmmaking in your country. I'm
always interested in how it works outside of the U.S. I was offering
opinion based on my experience and knowledge here in the States.
Sure, I understand it's quite different. I'm interested how does it work outside of Israel. What you're saying about US is encouraging.

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Go to filmmaker meetups and make friends with filmmakers. A few years ago I was begging for content to film. I love brainstorming ideas but I hate writing scripts, so I went to all my friends that were writers and couldn't get any of them to bite. So here I am 3 years later writing my own shorts because nobody I know likes writing enough. I was offering money and still no takers. So meet filmmakers. Shop your idea and if someone is interested in making it, they'll let you know.
How come you couldn't find anyone who loves writing?
Were you looking for professional writers? Because if not, there are plenty of ppl who wanna write.

P.S. Do you still need one?
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:25 AM   #20
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What you are describing is "Filmmakers". So yes, you often write, direct, edit etc. "Filmmakers" not directors, not editors, not prop masters, not screenwriters, even though they have those titles. But sure, they write. They have a passion to make a movie. Another analogy. A restaurateur will often head chef, line cook, market, manage, and even wash dishes. It's about passion. Do you have the passion to make movies or write movies? Period.
Thank you, that's a great analogy!
I'm passionate to make movies, which means I wanna follow a movie from moment I write the first word to the moment of the screening at the cinema. Yet I do not wish to put my hands on everything in the process, but rather hire professionals and let them add their own ideas as well.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:29 AM   #21
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In this case, it might be worth it to get your hands dirty on the first one, and hire later.
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Old 09-08-2017, 12:16 PM   #22
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The reason so many filmmakers there do more than one thing could be because like you said, they don't have much money for film. So the more each person can do, the less they have to spend.
You don't have to do everything all the time but having the experience of doing other things can actually help your writing, just like having the experience of writing, acting, etc. can help a director. It just depends what you want to focus on but having experience in the other areas, as well as life, can help your work.
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It's not always money. Sometimes it's fear of relinquishing control and delegating. I've seen many a director DP simply because of fear of not trusting a DP to convey their vision, etc. There's also those that think doing it all looks better in credits. Many reasons.
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I've found that a lot of directors start writing simply because they want something to direct, and no one will hire them (often because they don't have any credits yet). As a screenwriter myself, I think it's better to look for a director who's eager to work, even for little or no money. That way you both get some credits of produced work as well as experience.
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Being a producer and director guarantees it gets made.
If you're just a writer then there is no guarantee.




There's also nothing stopping you!
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:01 AM   #26
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Thank you guys for the advice.
And yes, sometimes I AM afraid to delegate tasks AND vision, because sometimes I give too much freedom and see what they do, and I be like "WTF man"... But that's actually MY fault because I find it difficult to find the right people and share my vision with them. It's a skill I lack of - I know what I want but I can't explain myself. That's why I prefer writing
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And yes, sometimes I AM afraid to delegate tasks AND vision, because sometimes I give too much freedom and see what they do, and I be like "WTF man"... But that's actually MY fault because I find it difficult to find the right people and share my vision with them.
That's the directors #1 job, to communicate clearly and succinctly the specifics of your vision.

Choosing the "right" people is tough when your selection is limited. Perhaps you should think about expanding your network. Maybe work as a PA or some other "menial" job on low/no/mini/micro budget projects to expand your network.
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