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Old 04-17-2014, 02:51 PM   #151
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Animation's really easy, it's the modelling, camera angling, and the lighting that's a bitch... also the lip syncing... oh god the lip syncing..... there's a reason the characters have no moving mouths in my Minecraft show
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:32 PM   #152
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No offense, I hope this is not an automation project.

Mussoman, have you tried simple amplitude mouth automation in AE? Its better than no mouth movement at all. (the louder the sound the bigger the mouth)

I used a more advanced phoneme mouth automation method that used Papagayo and after effects software (free) to create the dialogue. Its a bit complicated to get started, but once you've got it working you dont have to set up again.. just record, align and save..
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:49 PM   #153
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Mussoman, have you tried simple amplitude mouth automation in AE?
For this new 3D idea I'm conceptualizing, I'm actually looking into this AE plugin called Auto-Lip Sync

Testing the free trial as we speak
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:16 PM   #154
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whops, topic wondering.. back on OP....
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Old 04-17-2014, 06:06 PM   #155
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APE's comments, as much as I want to challenge (in a good constructive way) his basic premises, suggest to me that its a good idea to set realistic expectations on this project.

What are some indie films that we can reasonably hope to approximate in terms of quality and scope?

PI
A Second Earth
Safety Not Guaranteed
???
This is a good point. This film will only be as good as the best material we Indietalkers can produce. If you want to make a really high quality short film, this is simply not the way to do it! But if you want to make an interesting, unique project that has a scope impossible without international collaboration and represents what we can achieve as a community, then this is it!

I think all of the people who have committed to the project thus far have a pretty much unified idea of what we want to achieve. I've taken onboard all the comments and ideas in this thread and will try and harvest the best of them.

If you've yet to commit, please let me know in the next 12 or so hours (I'm about to go to bed) before the deadline!
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:37 PM   #156
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:25 AM   #157
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:56 AM   #158
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This is a good point. This film will only be as good as the best material we Indietalkers can produce.
Come on guys! If we work really hard, never sleep, and abandon all other responsibilities in our lives I'm sure we can make something great
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:34 AM   #159
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:27 AM   #160
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This is a good point. This film will only be as good as the best material we Indietalkers can produce.
Actually, the film will only be as good as the "worst" contribution to the project; the weak link, so to say.
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:10 PM   #161
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Ok, so the final list of participants reads as follows:

david.rhsc
cheeseandchallenge
ChimpPhobiaFilms
Cracker Funk
Lucky Hardwood
sfoster
wheatgrinder
WalterB


If any of you no longer want (or have time) to be part of this project, please let me know asap! Conversely, if I've missed anyone out, please let me know asap!

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Actually, the film will only be as good as the "worst" contribution to the project; the weak link, so to say.
Not sure those are mutually exclusive

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Old 04-18-2014, 08:00 PM   #162
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Can we get some handle on schedule?
Footage to editor by end of July? August?

Thoughts?
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:04 PM   #163
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My holidays are in July, so those dates would be suitable for me. Maybe end of August so I have some time to tie up any shots or w/e I missed/want to re-do/are random cutaways I didn't have time for with actors.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:22 PM   #164
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and I am of course still in as far as post is concerned, either as lead or adjunct composer! Hell, I'd be happy to just do a diegetic song! But you can worry about post when you get to post!
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:19 AM   #165
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Sorry, but I really don't think I can get involved this time around. It's something that I'd love to get involved with, but I just can't guarantee that I'll have the time or resources to do anything worthwhile.

I'll certainly be keeping an eye on the thread though, so if anything develops that I might be able to help with then I'll try to get involved then. I'll certainly be looking forward to reading the script.
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