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Old 12-08-2017, 11:05 PM   #16
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Nice Scoopic. Do you have any footage so we can see how it sells in the cut?
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:35 PM   #17
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Nice Scoopic. Do you have any footage so we can see how it sells in the cut?
Sure, here's the shot.




Some of my favorite greenscreen shots involved shooting indoors, with roaches. I turned them into canine-sized monsters. I used After Effects' Keylight for these shots.

To make the roach hopping on the man's chest, I had my finger under the green cloth, tapping the roach up and down. I bought 3 roaches, for $4 each, at an exotic pets store. So, yeah, you can do interactive green screen, as opposed to just a static background.




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Lighting is 70% of it.
Are you using a cloth, like the one I have pictured in my previous post? You don't want something that is too reflective. Avoiding spill, right off the bat, is key. (No pun intended!)
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Old 12-09-2017, 03:20 AM   #18
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If you showed me just a screenshot, I would've never guessed it was a green screen. I would've been fooled by the wide shot. The mid shot, yes, looks more green screen but that's more has to do with the placement of the cars.
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Old 12-09-2017, 04:18 AM   #19
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The wide shot is actually in the street. As for the mid shot, filmmakers are more apt to spot the effect. The roach moving between the living room furniture is more convincing.

I've done green screen models a few times. You may have seen the cop car pics I posted.









If you want to see the video, it worked really well. It's called "Cops at IndieMeet!" on Youtube.


I like that one, but I've done some terrible green screen shots. It's not that easy.
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Those clips look really fun & pretty good mostly.
You're unhappy with the edges on those?
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Old 12-09-2017, 07:07 PM   #21
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Those clips look really fun & pretty good mostly.
You're unhappy with the edges on those?
Thanks, buscando. No, I'm happy with the examples posted above. Just saying that I have had shots that had fringe issues. I'll probably not post them.

It's all a learning experience. My most recent debacle was running out of daylight and shooting while the sun was setting. The green screen got really bright and was reflecting on the actresses' arm and hair.
If you can get proper lighting and seperation from the background, up front, it beats trying to fix it in post.

Hopefully, this is helpful the O.P. I forgot to add, in addiion to lighting (also recommend countering with a magenta backlight, which I haven't done yet) and a non-reflective green screen cloth, a 4:2:2 color camera will also help. These images were all achieved with my old Panasonic HVX 200. Furthermore, if you can shoot a higher rez, like 2k or 4k, the downconversion to 2K or 1080 should look really good. If you are trying to key out things like plants and trees, use blue screen, instead.
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Convincable examples!

This is the type of example where if no one says anything about it being greenscreen, no one notices anything. But once you state it, you start looking around and "think" you see things off, that very well may be in you head. Looks good man!
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Ah, I got confused, Scoopicman. I thought you were the OP
On the roach, I was just wondering, what if you attached some invisible wires to the guy's shirt & tugged at it to give the cloth some moving wrinkles to go with the roach moving. Just a thought, what you have certainly works.
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Ah, I got confused, Scoopicman. I thought you were the OP
No, I'm just posting examples and some troubleshooting ideas. Until LAactionfilmmaker posts more details, I don't know what is not working for him/her.


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On the roach, I was just wondering, what if you attached some invisible wires to the guy's shirt & tugged at it to give the cloth some moving wrinkles to go with the roach moving.
That's a great idea! Will note it for next time.



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Convincable examples!

This is the type of example where if no one says anything about it being greenscreen, no one notices anything. But once you state it, you start looking around and "think" you see things off, that very well may be in you head. Looks good man!
Thanks! Yes, I completely agree with what you said.
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green screen

Try hitfilm it is a free program that does just about everything after effects does and has a preset for green screen and edge feathering. Tutorials are all over youtube, the best are from shiney films.
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