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05-03-2012, 09:22 PM
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Removing Reverb From ADR
The ADR came back from the studio we recorded in. It has some reverb.
Are there any tricks or techniques to remove it?
Our star actor from Serbia emailed me text book perfect ADR. Her's is way better than what we got from the studio. The studio stuff we used looks much poorer quality than what I got from Serbia.
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05-03-2012, 10:42 PM
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I am using the Serbian tracks. But, they are only for one character. The rest was done in a local recording studio.
Thank you Alcove
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05-03-2012, 10:56 PM
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And that's why you should have come to my place...
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05-04-2012, 01:25 AM
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Redo with lots of sound blankets surrounding the actor, make sure the room is dampened as well, put a sound blanket under their feet... Then mic them closer. It's prohibitively expensive at your/my level to get rid of reverb. It overlaps the main dialog with the same frequencies and taints the signal that can't be removed without ridiculously expensive software/hardware that need a professional audio engineer to use well.
Echos and reverb in microphone are almost as important to avoid as clipping. The goal (as always) is to get pristine dialog audio that you can then add effects to to make it sound right for the environment shown on screen/ on set recordings. The studio should have provided you clean dialog - the point of doing ADR.
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05-04-2012, 02:49 AM
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There is a new De-Reverberation plugin. I have not tried it but the demo video is cool. I use PC and it is MAC only for now.
http://www.zynaptiq.com/unveil/
Kurt Kroh
NoiseNinja
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05-04-2012, 04:17 AM
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The ADR came back from the studio we recorded in. It has some reverb.
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Whose idea was it to print reverb??????
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05-04-2012, 08:43 AM
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I agree with knightly. Redo the ADR, but do it yourself. I've gotten good sounding looping done with an SM-57 and Audacity before. The trick to making the ADR work is how you layer your sound (especially the ambient sound) in the edit.
I've always found properly sound editing a shot is harder and more time consuming than editing the video...
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05-07-2012, 10:21 AM
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Okay, I bought a De Verb plig-in.
It really helps mild cases of reverb. Some of my ADR has a really bad case of reverb. So, thinking outside the box, I went back to the original on location recordings. Jenn, the actress who plays Summer Storm has a powerful voice that carries. I lowered the volume of her voice on the original recordings, which also lowered the background wind. By adding a new layer of stock wind blowing ambience across the scene, it blends into the wind. Summer Strom and Artemis have the most dialogue and worse cases of reverb. There are a couple of takes with Artemis I had to use the ADR and the reverb still is evident. Roberta's perfect ADR fixed her character's dialogue very well.
I have Angela Bruno's one line fixed with a treated ADR take. I'm still waiting on Gail Storm's two lines of ADR. So, I removed the wind with Bias Sound Soap and the new softer layer of wind blended it in.
If I get time this week, I'll upload the new version to vimeo.
There was too much rain last week to get on location ambience to replace stock wind blowing.
Guys, thank you so much for all the great suggestions.
Last edited by Modern Day Myth Prod. LLC; 05-07-2012 at 10:55 AM.
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05-07-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Blade_Jones
Whose idea was it to print reverb??????
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Morons.
ADR is supposed to be drier than the Sahara Desert.
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05-07-2012, 10:57 AM
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I won't be doing ADR in that studio again. I learned a hard lesson. It's okay for narrations. But, not for ADR.
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05-07-2012, 11:13 AM
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Even narration should dry, dry, dry. You can always add reverb if you need to, and todays reverbs are incredibly realistic.
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05-07-2012, 11:42 AM
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True!
I have some good preset reverbs for dream effects and narrations with SoundForge.
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05-10-2012, 04:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Modern Day Myth Prod. LLC
I won't be doing ADR in that studio again. I learned a hard lesson. It's okay for narrations. But, not for ADR.
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Was it reverb from a processor that was added, or "poor sounding room reflections" type reverb from the space where it was recorded? If it's from a processor, can you get the original track recordings off them without the reverb? If it's from the room itself, then that's not a good buzz from the studio at all.
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