Making my own version of a Hollywood film

Hey Guys,

I wanted to know if anybody knows if I can take a movie that has already been made and recreate it but changing the story a little bit?
 
Sure you can. IMO Divergent was a harry potter rip off.

Bunch of kids go to the sorting hat.
The hero can't be sorted! Omg they're so special, they belong to multiple schools! griffindor and slitherin both. how special now lets watch the hijinks ensue.

"Dale and Tucker vs Evil" was a huge rip off of "A film with me in it" IMO. Doesn't seem to bother anyone that the stole the entire premise of their film. A bunch of comedically accidental deaths in a row that no one will believe. Oh man now the hijinks ensue.

This list could go on forever. Shameless rip offs are pervasive you just have to change it enough.
 
I'm going to use the same shots too which will hopefully give me a real Hollywood feel/look

1. That wouldn't be your "own version of a Hollywood film", it would just be your execution of George Tillman Jr.'s version of a Hollywood film!

2. What makes you think that just recreating the shots in a Hollywood film will give your film a Hollywood feel?

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All the cuts would be the same. This idea just recently popped in my head because Marlon Wayans is doing it with his new paraody and the company The Asylum does it too (not cut for cut though)
 
Or how about taking a tv episode and turning it into a feature. Originality is pretty much non existent. I know the Asylum has millions but if Asylum can make money from copying other films I think more people can too
 
All the cuts would be the same. This idea just recently popped in my head because Marlon Wayans is doing it with his new paraody and the company The Asylum does it too (not cut for cut though)

parody is a different beast entirely. you don't have to be subtle with parody because there is special protection called parody law.
 
Sweding!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq3tOwZGoR4

:P

Really recreating a feature with a gender swap for the lead?
What is the point of all that effort?
I can imagine reacreating a scene to try to do it, as a practise.
Just like I can imagine telling a similar story, but in your own way.
And I understand the riding a hype wave in the hope to pick omething from the hype.
But this?
It is one big copyright trap for sure :P
 
This idea just recently popped in my head because Marlon Wayans is doing it with his new paraody

So you want to copy a movie because you read that someone
else is copying a movie.

I say go for it. Since you not only can't come up with an original
idea for a movie but you can't even come up with the idea to
make a copy of a movie I'd say you are on the track to be a
"Hollywood" mogul.

When do you start shooting this movie?
 
Does any attempt at some kind of originality exist anymore?

Can we please stop asking this question? The question itself is unoriginal. We hear it everywhere.

And the answer that always comes back is yes and no. Yes, "originality" (as far as something can really be called "original") does exist, and the pursuit for "originality" still exists. It is simply that the biggest and most well-marketed products out there, both on TV and in Theaters, are the decidedly most unoriginal projects. This is why unoriginality has become such a big issue, because people don't realize that the more original content is much farther under the surface and much lower on the totem poles. But it's there.
 
To put in my two cents.
Shot-for-Shot fan re-creations are acceptable under the right circumstances. There's even a UK based competition for re-creating a film in 60 seconds, by whatever means you are able. And they don't even have to be that cinematic or realistic looking, they just have to be fun.

But the idea that if you recreate something shot-for-shot, and then try to pass it off as your own thing because you change some details of the story, is not entirely wrong, but it's not at all right.

It's not right in that you won't be able to make a meaningful career off of doing that. Because you'd basically be looking at it as just a way to make money rather than a way to have fun being a visual artist. Producers and Investors are the ones chiefly out to make money. Directors shouldn't be. I'm not saying they can't be, just that it doesn't make much sense.

Because the thing is, if you can't offer your own creativity and sense of shot composition to a film, then I don't feel like you can call yourself a real director. Or rather, you are a director, but you're not an Auteur. You're not imparting your own personal sense of vision onto something, you're just re-purposing someone else's.

But building off the existing work of others in terms of referencing, being influenced by, or paying homage to certain shots that you like from other movies isn't a bad thing to do. Plenty of people do that, and it can easily set them on the right path to truly understanding why these great shots work, and what makes them work based on what's happening in the story, how the characters in the scene are feeling, and how the cinematography is handled to make the shot look its best. Many artists have to imitate the masters before they can set off on their own path. So the idea of it is not a misplaced concept. However, trying to make a whole movie that way, especially if you don't have the legal rights to do so, is frankly foolish and misguided.
 
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All the cuts would be the same. ... and the company The Asylum does it too (not cut for cut though)

Interesting that you should think that it's just the cuts which make a film feel "Hollywood"! And, do you really think the films "The Asylum" make have a Hollywood feel?

Plenty of people do that, and it can easily set them on the right path to truly understanding why these great shots work, and what makes them work based on what's happening in the story, how the characters in the scene are feeling, and how the cinematography is handled to make the shot look its best.

Mmm, I disagree. I don't disagree that copying a scene/shot can be a useful exercise in terms of gaining a better understanding of and practising cinematography, lighting, blocking and picture editing but in the vast majority of cases it does not "set them [people] on the right path to truly understanding why these great shots work" because these great shots very rarely work solely because of the cinematography, lighting, blocking and picture editing!

Paying homage to a particular shot/scene is not uncommon and not necessarily a bad thing but it depends on context and of course "paying homage to" is not the same as "copying".

OP: The Asylum have a particular business model which works extremely well for them. However, they don't copy shot for shot, what they have copied has landed them in big trouble in the past, it's not as cheap or easy to make as you might imagine and, it's actually their more original material which has earned them the big bucks.

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Mmm, I disagree. I don't disagree that copying a scene/shot can be a useful exercise in terms of gaining a better understanding of and practising cinematography, lighting, blocking and picture editing but in the vast majority of cases it does not "set them [people] on the right path to truly understanding why these great shots work" because these great shots very rarely work solely because of the cinematography, lighting, blocking and picture editing!

Well that's what it's done for me anyway.
 
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