...I understand that it was an awful horror film by Rob Zombie. As for Zombie himself, he seems to be a pretty creative person, but I heard the film was just bad. I'm going to rent it to see for myself...
I ask because Zombie just released a sequel called the Devils Rejects with Lion's Gate.
How does an untried filmmaker with a bad film get a nationwide release like this? I assume that the guy must have had alot of his own money to make the film, but to get a nationwide release? How was he able to do that? What kind of lightning has to strike? He is further along than alot of us considering he has had two films released nationally....
...'course he does know Ozzy...and Ozzy is the prince of darkness :devil: \m/
--spinner :cool:
Spatula
07-10-2005, 04:20 PM
It had some really cool shots and moments in it, but House of 1000 Corpses was simply an exploitation film. Some people will enjoy it, most won't.
I thought there were a few particularly neat ideas in there, but meh... overall it just didn't have anything that would keep me coming back for more.
His name is what gets him funding... he already has a large musical fan base, and his name is out there, so investors would probably be a little more comfortable giving up funds, knowing that he alread has "cult status" and can get a crowd large enough to return a profit. Probably.
JasonJolliff
07-11-2005, 01:44 AM
...and looking at IMDbPro, it looks like the film was made for $7M and grossed $12.6M at the box office alone. That doesn't include DVD sales. Even though it may have been a bad film, it still made double it's money and probably more (DVD sales) by now. Money talks.
FilmJumper
07-11-2005, 03:23 AM
Has ANYONE seen 'House of a Thousand Corpses'?
...I understand that it was an awful horror film by Rob Zombie. As for Zombie himself, he seems to be a pretty creative person, but I heard the film was just bad. I'm going to rent it to see for myself...
I ask because Zombie just released a sequel called the Devils Rejects with Lion's Gate.
How does an untried filmmaker with a bad film get a nationwide release like this? I assume that the guy must have had alot of his own money to make the film, but to get a nationwide release? How was he able to do that? What kind of lightning has to strike? He is further along than alot of us considering he has had two films released nationally....
...'course he does know Ozzy...and Ozzy is the prince of darkness :devil: \m/
--spinner :cool:
2 Reasons...
Lion's Gate is known for giving directors creative control. No other studio would have even put this movie out. Lion's Gate is betting on Zombie's fan base to turn a profit with THE DEVIL'S REJECTS.
filmy
*edit: Actually, I too, was speaking of Rob Zombie's fan base and not regular (?) zombies... LOL.
NicklausLouis
07-11-2005, 12:52 PM
"House of 1000 Corpses" was originally made at Universal (I still have a copy of the original trailer with the Universal logo on it...it was bad ass). They saw the rough cut and dumped it IMMEDIATELY! Then Lion's Gate swooped in and picked it up.
It was bad, but like Spat said, it did have a cult following due to the "idea" that the movie was so gruesome Universal dumped it (in reality, they dumped it cause it was just plain stupid) and the fact that Zombie is a big name with a large fan base.
And like Jason said, it made money.
And like filmy said, it has a zombie following.
So, money maker + cult status + large fan base = sequel.
I myself will someday see "The Devil's Rejects" simply to see if Zombie out-crapped himself.
Poke
spinner
07-12-2005, 02:00 AM
...I guess I was looking at it the wrong way...
I was coming from the standpoint of a strictly unknown director and a bad film. I figured, yeah Zombie has standing in music, but not so much in film and was forgetting about the built in fan base. Too bad we don't have his connections...
--spinner :cool:
vvalverde
07-12-2005, 06:51 PM
I saw rob zombie on Henry (Rollins) film corner on IFC (love this show!!) and apprantely it took him a long time to get Funding. but eventually Lion's gate took it in and saw that it actually made some money for them so gave him a sequel. I have never seen either film, but my friends love the first one. They are however huge horror film fans and said you really have to be into that genre to like his film. So guess its good for its genre appratenly. And, lets say it is bad. the guy did a film like he wanted to. I am sure that if we were all in his position, we would use our fame to make a film just b/c we can. at least he made his movie his way, without apologizing for it and at least that is something we all would like to do. just my 2cents. Peace
FilmJumper
07-12-2005, 09:45 PM
I saw rob zombie on Henry (Rollins) film corner on IFC (love this show!!) and apprantely it took him a long time to get Funding. but eventually Lion's gate took it in and saw that it actually made some money for them so gave him a sequel. I have never seen either film, but my friends love the first one. They are however huge horror film fans and said you really have to be into that genre to like his film. So guess its good for its genre appratenly. And, lets say it is bad. the guy did a film like he wanted to. I am sure that if we were all in his position, we would use our fame to make a film just b/c we can. at least he made his movie his way, without apologizing for it and at least that is something we all would like to do. just my 2cents. Peace
I don't think anyone here would dispute what you say about making a film the way we want. Luckily, he's got enough of a fan base for his film to make money. I understand THE DEVILS REJECTS is supposed to be NATURAL BORN KILLERS on steroids so the boxoffice take should be interesting.
Unfortunately, if someone OTHER than Rob made the first film, it probably would have died a miserable death because let's face it...
filmy
wwwtf_adam
07-14-2005, 12:03 AM
See I actually thought the first film was pretty damn creepy. And unlike the watered down PG-13 horror crap coming out of Hollywood, he pulled no punches. I think if you like horror, it's definitely worth a watch. It was damn good for what it was, which is esentially a B-grade horror flick. (Certainly 10 times better than Boogeyman, or the remake of Texas Chainsaw, or the Grudge, any of that ilk.) So, yes, give it a rent...and I will certainly watch the new one. (A hell of a lot sooner than I'd watch some scientology commercial starring Tom Cruise.)
NicklausLouis
07-14-2005, 12:18 AM
It's just a matter of taste I guess.
Poke
spinner
07-14-2005, 01:48 AM
(A hell of a lot sooner than I'd watch some scientology commercial starring Tom Cruise.)
:lol: ...seems alittle militant doesn't he....
--spinner :cool:
NicklausLouis
07-14-2005, 10:11 AM
If you're referring to War of the Worlds, it's not a commercial for scientology. It actually is a pretty good summer movie.
Poke
wwwtf_adam
07-14-2005, 11:05 AM
Actually I was thinking specifically of Vanilla Sky...but as for War, I just can't bring myself to see the movie after his public meltdown. Could be the greatest film of all time. But I'll skip it nonetheless.
I just chimed in really to give Zombie credit with doing his film his way. And to say give his first effort a glance. It's sick and twisted, but aren't horror films surrposed to be?
I'm just so tired of the PG-13 mentality.
Spatula
07-14-2005, 11:13 AM
War of the Worlds, is about the French.
wwwtf_adam
07-14-2005, 12:55 PM
War of the Worlds, is about the French.
I'm confused?
If it's a war, there has to be religion involved.
:)
alterEGOcinema
07-17-2005, 06:15 AM
War of the Worlds was a nice suprise and Tom Cruise was actually very good.
I would look at the movie for what it is, not for what one of the actors is in real life (remember he's one out of probably 2000 people that worked on the movie). It's worth seeing for sure, in the theatres.
But the orignal post was on an awesome movie, but obviously not one that appeals to all. I can easily see why, but I loved it and Rejects looks like one of the best of the summer.
It was great because it brought back that whole 1970's horror style.
The way Alexander Payne did it for "Sideways"
or Clint Eastwood for "Million Dollar Baby"
or Steven Soderberg
all these directors really keep that fantastic 1970s style cinema.
Rob Zombie just happened to do it with gore.
well, my opinions at least. forget the grudge and all these Amercian Asian remakes. The Devils Rejects looks amazing. and instead of the remakes check out the original Asian films and old classics (i.e. Chainsaw Massacre, Amityville Horror) that America keeps redoing.
eclectica3v
07-17-2005, 12:29 PM
It's insane how he decides to make another movie!
I mean he must have made like 4 dollars with his last one!
the title I must admit is catchy (The Devil's Rejects) << I mean it makes those characters sound awful,
I think (Just like Texas Chainsaw Massacre) any project similar to the story already done should just stop at its original idea.
Unless it's Soderbergh's Ocean's 11 and 12. Those movies were Fantastic!
I'm getting beside the point here.
Wasn't Rob Zombie in the first flick he did? If he was he can't act a darn! :lol:
rayw
08-17-2011, 03:13 PM
No point.
No legitimate purpose.
Just wanted to take my "Fair Use" out for a spin.
That's all.
I think if you are looking for a scary movie that will give you nightmares then watch his films. They are real gory and scary in a Texas chainsaw way. Both movies creep me out and I will not re watch them. But I got to admit the first was pretty good. The second was not quite as good as the first.
I like his music much better then his films.
chilipie
10-03-2011, 07:39 AM
Holy thread resurrection, batman.
Wombat
10-03-2011, 08:35 AM
Well...
Might as well talk about his other movies, if anyone has seen them?
I loved House of 1000 Corpses. It freaked me out, partly because of how weird and raw it felt. I'm a big fan of slasher movies and 80's horror in general, and it seems like the final evolution of the genre, in a good way. The Devil's Rejects was alright, but it definitely felt like a tacked on sequel.
His Halloween remakes, though? Man. I don't know. They're better than the remakes by Platinum Dunes, but I don't think that's saying much. I like that he has a unique take on the origin story, but he makes the mistake of turning them into mere slasher movies. What made the original so great was the suspense Carpenter built, which is sorely lacking in the remakes. The psychological aspect he adds in is kind of minor and more background information than anything. I was pretty disappointed, overall.
cameronchapman
10-03-2011, 08:44 AM
Guess I'll jump in here, too. I liked House of 1000 Corpses. I LOVED Devil's Rejects. In fact, I thought it was pretty freakin' brilliant.
And I couldn't make it through the Halloween remake because it was too intensely violent. I still think it was well-done, though. Maybe it's just because I'm a big Zombie fan to begin with, but he's one of my favorite directors. Probably because he just does whatever the f*** he wants and makes money doing it. And besides, how can you not love Captain Spaulding?
JoshL
10-03-2011, 09:01 AM
I loved House of 1000 Corpses, start to finish. Wasn't as into Devil's Rejects as much; too much of a 70s road movie for my tastes. I thought it was well done, just not really my thing. I think I was expecting more of a horror film, like House, and it's not.
I've been disappointed that he's been spending time doing Halloween remakes. I was never crazy about the originals (though I did like the third...WAY in the minority there), and I would have rather see him do something new. So, on that note, I'm REALLY looking forward to his upcoming Lords of Salem. Sounds RIGHT up my alley!
As an aside, I wish his Zombie-A-Go-Go record label had lasted longer, if only because I LOVE the Ghastly Ones. If you haven't heard them, they're the surf rock equivalent of Scooby Doo, and every bit as awesome as that sounds!
DeJager
10-03-2011, 02:30 PM
I find the person, Rob Zombie, to be brilliant. He's an amazing musician and a fantastic director. I really enjoyed House of 1000 Corpses, loved Devils Rejects, and really admired his take on the Halloween franchise. I will watch any of his future movies.
cameronchapman
10-03-2011, 04:30 PM
I find the person, Rob Zombie, to be brilliant. He's an amazing musician and a fantastic director. I really enjoyed House of 1000 Corpses, loved Devils Rejects, and really admired his take on the Halloween franchise. I will watch any of his future movies.
Agreed on the brilliant part.
Plus, he totally wears sparkly jeans at his concerts. :yes: That, right there, gives him instant street cred in my book.
mad_hatter
10-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Have you all seen him live? He toured the Uk in Febuary, I was lucky enough to get hold of some tickets! Man, he's awesome. The whole show was incredible. Plus, that was when Joey Jordison was playing drums for him, made it even more awesome!
Anyhow, very much looking forward to "Lords...". The plot sounds like some low-budget, 80's, cheese-tastic, teen-horror, but I think it's safe to say that, being Zombie, it'll be far from it. In fact, he's gone on record to say this will be his most fucked-up movie yet...
cameronchapman
10-03-2011, 07:13 PM
Have you all seen him live? He toured the Uk in Febuary, I was lucky enough to get hold of some tickets! Man, he's awesome. The whole show was incredible. Plus, that was when Joey Jordison was playing drums for him, made it even more awesome!
Anyhow, very much looking forward to "Lords...". The plot sounds like some low-budget, 80's, cheese-tastic, teen-horror, but I think it's safe to say that, being Zombie, it'll be far from it. In fact, he's gone on record to say this will be his most fucked-up movie yet...
I saw him live at Metropolis in Montreal a few years ago, right after Educated Horses came out. It was fantastic. I'm not big on concerts, but I'd definitely go see him again.
DeJager
10-03-2011, 08:07 PM
Right on! I saw him in Des Moines, Iowa back in 2004. Case girls and lots of fire. Definitely a rockin' show.