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surewillfilms
07-09-2005, 10:16 PM
hey everybody...I'm sure this question has been already asked countless times, but I'm a newbie, so please bear with me.

I'm shooting a feature on a Canon XL1. I've done a lot of test footage just getting to know the ins and outs of the camera (which I can't recommend enough, btw), but I only have one problem...I want to shoot this as close to 16:9 as possible, and can't afford the 35mm adapter that a friend of mine told me about ($10,000+). The camera has a built-in 16:9 emulation that it does digitally, which is alright, but the resolution goes way down when you do it that way. I don't want to just crop it in post for a number of reasons. What are my other options? Because of the interchangability of the camera, is there another lens or something that I can get? I am by no means a "techie" or anything...I'm a DP by way of director by way of writer (if that makes any sense) so please use your smallest technical words, because I get lost very easily :) Thanks for all of your help.

FilmJumper
07-10-2005, 12:46 AM
hey everybody...I'm sure this question has been already asked countless times, but I'm a newbie, so please bear with me.

I'm shooting a feature on a Canon XL1. I've done a lot of test footage just getting to know the ins and outs of the camera (which I can't recommend enough, btw), but I only have one problem...I want to shoot this as close to 16:9 as possible, and can't afford the 35mm adapter that a friend of mine told me about ($10,000+). The camera has a built-in 16:9 emulation that it does digitally, which is alright, but the resolution goes way down when you do it that way. I don't want to just crop it in post for a number of reasons. What are my other options? Because of the interchangability of the camera, is there another lens or something that I can get? I am by no means a "techie" or anything...I'm a DP by way of director by way of writer (if that makes any sense) so please use your smallest technical words, because I get lost very easily :) Thanks for all of your help.

You might want to check on the availability of an anamorphic adapter for the front of whatever lens you'll be using for your shoot.

I have a Panasonic DVX100A with the anamorphic adapter and I can't believe how much better the picture quality is. I believe Century Optics might make an adapter for the XL1.

Having said that...

They ain't cheap...

filmy

clive
07-10-2005, 03:07 AM
Filmy's right.

However, the question I guess I'd ask is why shoot on a 4:3 camera, when you want you want to produce 16:9?

Put the XL1 to one side and put the money you would have spent on an adaptor into renting a camera that will shoot in true anamorphic 16:9.

If it's a budget issue you could even look at the Sony DCR-HC42E, which is a cheapie camcorder, but with true 16:9 capabilities. I know you can buy them new in the UK for about £400, which means in the US they're probably giving them away with cornflakes.

Personally, I'd hire a decent low end professional camera, they're all 16:9/4:3 switchable. A Panasonic DVCPro25 or even better DVCPro50 would give you a great looking film. Doing this would push your post production cost up a little, unless you've got free access to panasonic decks, but in the long run it'll be worth it.

indycine
07-10-2005, 04:51 AM
If it's a budget issue you could even look at the Sony DCR-HC42E, which is a cheapie camcorder, but with true 16:9 capabilities. I know you can buy them new in the UK for about £400, which means in the US they're probably giving them away with cornflakes.

Have eaten six boxes of cornflakes.
Have yet to find Sony camera.
Will advise.

Shaw
07-10-2005, 12:55 PM
You could probably sell your XL1 and with a little saving get and XL2 for true 16:9. Granted, renting may be better - depends heavily on the project itself I think. A good anamorphic adapter will cost you around $800 USD and up. These adapters also require a good amount of technical knowledge to operate well as you end up with two different focal points (ie you have a different focus in the horizontal axis vs the vertical - limits your choice of f# and zoom).