View Full Version : TV show rights have expired/ What can I use?


ismertr
06-09-2005, 11:11 AM
Hi. I contacted Warner Brothers about a show from the early 80's. I'd like to use some clips from the show for a documentary.

They faxed me a letter stating "Rights in and to the requested motion picture or television title(s) have expired".

What does this mean? Can I use anything from the show? Is no agreement needed? Can I use the clips and sell DVDs without any legal consequences?

Zensteve
06-09-2005, 02:43 PM
Well, somebody has to own the rights.

Maybe they are saying that their own rights to it have reverted back to the creator?

ismertr
06-09-2005, 02:52 PM
Since the show aired in 81, has the copyright expired all together? Don't copyrights last only 20 years?

Zensteve
06-09-2005, 02:56 PM
Copyrights last a lot longer than 20 years, unless relinquished and placed into the Public Domain.

Here's a chart that you may find useful.

http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Domain.htm

ismertr
06-09-2005, 03:28 PM
So Warner Brother's owned the rights for 21 years 81 to 2002. Then they revert back to the production company, Ohlmeyer Communications. Are these guys still in business?

ismertr
06-09-2005, 03:30 PM
What if it is impossible to track down who owns the rights to a tv show or movie?

Zensteve
06-09-2005, 03:51 PM
There's always a way to find out. Just takes a little research.

So Warner Brother's owned the rights for 21 years 81 to 2002.

That was just a guess on my part... that they owned the distribution rights for a certain period of years. That may or may not be the case, after some legwork. :)

Zensteve
06-09-2005, 04:05 PM
Here you go.

Ohlmeyer Communications
962 N La Cienega Blvd,
Los Angeles, CA

(310) 659-8557

Not so hard.

film8ker
06-12-2005, 10:21 AM
First you need to learn about copyright law. Go to http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf and http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html to get the law straight from the source.

Second, that response means that WB had a limited use license granted to them from the copyright owner. They should be able to tell you who the original owner is, and you’ll need to contact them. There is a search function at the copyright.gov website that may help.