OK all you super 8 fans .. check out the new super 8 forum ;)

Just in the nick of time, too!

Bought this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3839960978) last night. :woohoo:

Now I just need to figure out what the deal with real film is. Is expensive!

Great to see Super8 get it's own forum. Thanks indie.

Zen, looks like you got a killer deal there. Very nice looking camera. Film can be expensive. Ebay is a good place to look as well. Here is someone (http://stores.ebay.com/JIMS-PHOTO-SUPPLIES-AND-MORE_SUPER8-8mm-16mm-MOVIE-FILM_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQsclZallQQsocolumnlayoutZ4QQ sotimedisplayZ2QQtZkm) who sells filmstock for a pretty good price. Fresh too! I'd stay away from EKTACHROME though. Kodak is going to be discontining all there EKTACHROME stock by the end of the year. Also it will cost you more money to process EKTACHROME. KODACHROME is the way to go for color film! Also Tri-X/Plus-X is the Black and White film stock. I havn't tried the new Black and White stocks that Kodak has put out this past year, but I hear they are very good. :)

Sadly none of the Kodak stocks have a sound strip. :( Which is really sad. I wish they still did. Oh well, we can always wish. :yes:

How do you plan on converting to digital? Costs money! :(

Nahh...if you shoot film keep it in film when you edit! :-P I mean sure you can transfer it to video and go about it that way. But me, I really like getting my hands on the film and cutting it together. I have a great worker tape splicer and a great Goko editor for Super8 film.

Of course some people might not want to fool around with it, and will just transfer to digital. BUT you don't get that joy of firing up the project and showing your short on a movie screen! :) That's what I love about it. ;)

Zen! Getting into super 8, cool!



Sadly none of the Kodak stocks have a sound strip. :( Which is really sad. I wish they still did. Oh well, we can always wish. :yes:
I don't miss that. Remember, the sound strip goes where the film goes, meaning through the bath when it's processed. Doesn't really help the sound quality, and it's not to good to begin with.

How do you plan on converting to digital? Costs money! :(
Many options.
Find an affordable telecine process
Keep on film and project on your super 8 projector
Use one of those transfer boxes that cost about $30, where you project onto a mirror, and you record the image with a video camera (they actually work quite well).

Holy Zen-n00b!

I didn't even think about needing to get a projector. :blush:

(Too excited about the camera)

Just in the nick of time

Yes, indeed. I'm getting read to embark on my on Super 8 adventure shortly using this baby that I bought years and years ago and stashed in a closet until it was recently uncovered.

http://www.mondofoto.com/manuals/yashicaelectro800/

And I'm in the same boat as you Zen, I'm gonna have to hunt down a projector myself.

I previously made a couple of Super 8 shorts about 10 years ago in college. Terrible, terrible, stuff. Maybe I will post one of them in the screening room for laughs.

I also contemplating trying to shoot something with an old regular 8mm B&H I've had lying around forever, but it's such a pain to get film for it.

KODACHROME is the way to go for color film!

You're talking about reversal film right? I remember shooting all my college films on reversal because it was cheaper to process than negatives. Anyway, I was wondering, if I'm going to eventually telecine my film to a digitial format, is there any reason to not shoot negative?

Yes I was talking about reversal film. That's the way I would go for making shorts and stuff. I really don't see a need to shoot negative for telecine. I think it's the same process as reversal. I could be wrong though.

hmm, editing in film would be kind of cool, tedious as hell i'd imagine. But what about all those really sweet CGI effects! (sarcasm) and reverse jumps!

Darn. Sounds like I might just have to buy myself a super8 or 16mm film camera one of these days. I would love to work with film on some shorts.

Guess I'll wait till I have money - maybe purchase a camera now and wait to buy everything else :D. It's really cool to see more people delving into film! Very inspiring!

Super 8 chat in the chat room at midnight, EST

damn i keep forgetting to use the chat....sorry !

Was short notice for the Q/A, Mr Rizien :)

Ahab,

I have the exact same camera. I am using it as a prop but want to do a short Super 8 film in Korea in the spring when the colors are vibrant. There are some gorgeous sites in Seoul that will lend well to film!

Does anyone know a good place to have the transfer done to video?

I searched for a projector prior to coming to Korea in 2002 but it requires a good look. You have to consider replacement bulbs. I occasionally ran across them at thrift stores but either they worked with no bulb or didn't work. So I want to film on Super 8 but edit digitally. I am still going through sonnyboo Super 8 links as well as links from Kodak (between popping in here) but haven't located what I am looking for yet.

Mr Boo has a link on that page, btw, to a company that he wasn't particularly thrilled with after getting telecined results back from them. http://www.stevenrichards.com/images/smiley_ninja.gif

Pro8mm.com

I read about them in moviemaker magazine many moons ago. I've been to there site. Do you know if anyone else has had problems with their work? I am considering using them, but that is a good chunk of dough.

You can still buy replacement bulbs, you just have to look around. There are stores that specialize in bulbs. Projectors that use the halogen lamps in the ceramic shell will give a better picture than the light bulb ones.

I was packing at the time and didn't get a chance to look into bulb specialists. I got bite by the Super 8 bug about 4 months prior to leaving for Korea. I have a suite of Super 8 editing supplies, a few cameras, and a transfer box in the States but no projector. I picked most of this up at thrift stores. Utah has thrift stores all over. A few chains, it's pretty amazing.

Cool to know when I get back I can find bulbs, thanks Indie....

For bulbs, try www.bulbdirect.com. They carry bulbs for lights, projectors and etc.... (And don't try www.bulbsdirect.com unless you want pretty flowers in your yard.

Scott

Ta for the link, Mr Spears! :yes:

Indie... you mention projectors that take a certain bulb for a better picture. Are there any other things that would make a given projector better than another, for Super-8 film?

(Qualifying that with "nothing that bumps the price range by a 1000%) :lol:

Pro8mm.com

I read about them in moviemaker magazine many moons ago. I've been to there site. Do you know if anyone else has had problems with their work? I am considering using them, but that is a good chunk of dough.

I used Pro8mm when they were originally Super8 Sound and twice since changing their name... My recommendation is to use them as a last resort only...

I've had bad telecine jobs and bad overall service from them just about every time... On top of that, my opinion is that once they realize that you're simply a low budget filmmaker instead of a name director or production company that has some bucks to spend, they pretty much don't give a shit about you...

On the other hand...

There's a Pro8mm in the UK and if they weren't so far away, I would be tempted to work with them instead... I've got nothing but good things to say about them but I've never actually utilized any of their services so I don't even know what kind of services they provide... All I do know is they answer email and are always willing to talk and answer questions... Pro8mm in Burbank is not that way at all...

Hope that helps...

filmy

everybody wants k40, i say stuff it! its too bloody contrasty, too slow telecines bad.

now..the 100t neg is a hell of a stock. finer grain than k40, much faster and telecines great or blows up to 16mm,35mm well. what more do you want?

double super8!

I have mixed feelings about PRO8. Come to think of it, every film processing place I've dealt with gave me a bad vibe. They seem to be almost annoyed by smaller customers like me.

I've used Monaco in SF, a place in Seattle (can't remember their name) and PRO8. Would not recommend any of them, though Monaco did the best job I think in terms of fidelity and quality, but it cost me! PRO8 offers free processing if you buy certain films from them (save for $10 UPS shipping), that's cool. But they send me processed film rolls in plastic baggies, no film cans for me. Weak. Oh and Adolf Gasser in SF I would avoid at all costs. They ruined a transfer and lost a reel of my footage. Ultra weak.

Pro8mm.com

I read about them in moviemaker magazine many moons ago. I've been to there site. Do you know if anyone else has had problems with their work? I am considering using them, but that is a good chunk of dough.

I have had 3 consecutive very bad experiences with Pro8mm... avoid them like the plague. Unless you are spending oodles of money with them, you will not get the care, customer service, or product worth a crap from them.

I have had 3 consecutive very bad experiences with Pro8mm... avoid them like the plague. Unless you are spending oodles of money with them, you will not get the care, customer service, or product worth a crap from them.

well guys this is why i suggest using double super8. it allows you to go to anybody that processes 16mm film and has a far steadier image than cartridge super8. the processing should be much cheaper overall. if you want more info and decide to buy a camera and or stock join the double super8 forum. its in yahoo groups and is called "double super8"

if you cant get in them email me personally and ill add you manually.

bloopoid@yahoo.com

well guys this is why i suggest using double super8. it allows you to go to anybody that processes 16mm film and has a far steadier image than cartridge super8. the processing should be much cheaper overall. if you want more info and decide to buy a camera and or stock join the double super8 forum. its in yahoo groups and is called "double super8"

if you cant get in them email me personally and ill add you manually.

bloopoid@yahoo.com

You keep saying that but I know for a fact that not every lab that can process 16mm film can also SLIT it down the middle so you have two strips of Super8.

filmy

You keep saying that but I know for a fact that not every lab that can process 16mm film can also SLIT it down the middle so you have two strips of Super8.

filmy

and this is why you get the 15 dollar russian film slitter and do it yourself.

its actually a great quality unit and is cheap. you dont need the lab to do this.

and this is why you get the 15 dollar russian film slitter and do it yourself.

its actually a great quality unit and is cheap. you dont need the lab to do this.

Too funny... I totally forgot about THE RUSSIAN SPLITTER! LOL.

filmy

Too funny... I totally forgot about THE RUSSIAN SPLITTER! LOL.

filmy


as long as they work...

Sadly,Kodak has disconinued Kodachrome in super 8.They have replaced it with Ektachrome 64.I haven't shot any yet,but from what I have read it is a gorgeous stock that rivals K40.It's an E-6 process which means there will be more labs out there that can handle it.8mm filmshooting has the skinny on it, and options if your camera is not properly notched to handle the 2/3 stop increase.