i need to buy editing software i have been looking at final cut studio pro #3 or 4 very expensive 1800$ but i dont use mac. what do u think about editing with OS EX what do you sugest?

I can't help you with any other Editing Program since I haven't used anything else except FCP4, But I can tell you how to get it cheaper, If your a Student or know a student you can get Final Cut Pro 4 Academic Edition for 500 bones. Plus you can save on many of there other programs and Equipment. Sorry Couldn’t be more help

i need to buy editing software i have been looking at final cut studio pro #3 or 4 very expensive 1800$ but i dont use mac. what do u think about editing with OS EX what do you sugest?
I suggest you get FCP.

Sure, it's expensive - but many aspects of making movies are. It's an acceptable business expence and well worth it!

If you don't use Mac then look at Adobe Premier.

For the PC, you can also look at Vegas ($400-ish) from Sony. There's a scaled down version called Movie Studio which I think runs around $70. It still has plenty of features. It's available at most computer stores.

Premiere Pro is pretty darn good too.

Scott

Final Cut Pro.... Thats good software, just wish I could afford it :-)

Final Cut Pro.... Thats good software, just wish I could afford it :-)

It is good software I just wish I knew how to use it better.
Self Teaching is a bitch sometimes.

>>Self Teaching is a bitch sometimes.<<

Hear, Hear! I've been working on teaching myself to become a colorist and although it's great fun (at least I think so) it's a real pain too.

Premiere Pro is pretty effective but I'll admit I get frustrated with each new version of Premiere. It seems like they improve some lacking sections of the program at the expense of sections that were already working just fine.

AVID is great... Their XPress version is still pretty expensive though...

Yeah on Macs go with Final Cut Pro. If you're on a tight budget, you might want to look at Final Cut Express, can do the same things except for batch capture and some keyframing abilities.

He doesnt have a mac though.

What is OS EX? is that a mac OS emulator for windows?

I use Ulead's Media Stuido Pro. Works fine for me. ;)

Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 is comparable (now).

Avid Xpress DV is also good.

I have Adobe, and it has every feature I'll ever need EXCEPT for decent titling options...but whatayagonnado?

:shock:

[EXCEPT for decent titling options]

Interesting that you should say that. In all the reviews I read premiere is always mentioned for its great titling capabilities!

..maybe I haven't figured them out, but it's more possible that a newer version (I have 6LE) has great titling capabilities, or they're talking about after effects or something...All my version can do (as far as I know) is make titles appear, dissapear, and scroll. I wish it had at least a fade in/out effect for titles. Maybe it does, but I looked and looked in the Help index.

I have Adobe, and it has every feature I'll ever need EXCEPT for decent titling options...but whatayagonnado?
I use Photoshop for most of my titling. I find that the titles are much sharper & cleaner when going out to DV or DVD than with the built in titling tools in either FCP or in After Effects.

Adobe Premeire 6.5, Pro, and Pro 1.5 have an all new titler that is incredible.

For Premiere 6.0, there is TITLE EXPRESS and TITLE DECKO that come with 6.0 FULL.

I've got Sony Pictures' VEGAS 5.0. It's pretty good and has a decent learning curve.

I wish it had at least a fade in/out effect for titles. Maybe it does

http://www.stevenrichards.com/images/smiley_learn.gif You can place the titles on Video Track 2 (or higher) and use the transparency rubber bands to go from 0 to 100 to 0 again.

If your working with DV. Anything that will capture video and put it togeather in a timeline will work. Most of the time you will either cut or fade. If you're going to do more than that you should probly go out to another app like Adobe After Effects or Combustion. It makes things alot easier. If money is an issue even the basic software that comes with a $40 firewire card can cut and fade. They all capture DV at the same standard.

If money isn't an issue than still get the cheapest app (like Vegas). This will leave you more money to put into you camera. This is were the dollars should be spent. The best way to put it is "Garbage in Garbage out".

I use Vegas but I was trainned on Final Cut Pro for my job.

I love this icon! :yes:

Toxzy

AVID is great... Their XPress version is still pretty expensive though...

If you don't need a lot of power and can live with just cuts and dissolves, AVID FreeDV works pretty well. I believe it is PC and MAC. VERY limited FX, no compositing. But hey, its FREE (also a great way to learn the basic AVID interface). I believe it does have a batch capture capability and it is non-destructive editing, which puts it ahead of things like iMovie (though iMovie has better FX).

has anyone here used both adobe and FCP? if so would you like to give the pros cons to each and which you like better and why?

has anyone here used both adobe and FCP? if so would you like to give the pros cons to each and which you like better and why?

I have used both, but the last version of Premiere for mac I used was 5, and I think it was still in the phase of getting support for DV cameras (weren't those the days). For me at least in a nutshell final cut just made more sense as far as where tools were, how everythign worked, where in Premier things did not seem all that organized, and the slow motion drove me nuts, hehe. By the way Adobe no longer makes Premier for mac.. .. . . . right?

. By the way Adobe no longer makes Premier for mac.. .. . . . right?

They stopped with Premier Pro. You can still get 6.5 for Mac, assuming you can find a copy.

I would suggest getting Vegas5. It is a great program and I am finding that it's being used more and more. In fact, I work for the .com division of United Airlines. There was an in flight concert with Cheryl Crowe which used 4 cams. They shot the footage in the air at 32,000 feet. By the time they landed they had a music video completed. It was shown to all onboard before they exited the plane.
How could this happen?
Vegas babby, Vegas. No other App could have done it on a laptop using multi cam mode. I keep finding more and more are using it to produce professional works.
Right now, I use Vegas to bring in footage from my DV cam and edit. Then I bring it into Combustion to do compositing and such.

Combustion: http://www.genesis-technologies.com/pubdetails.asp?ProductID=877059

Vegas: http://www.genesis-technologies.com/pubdetails.asp?ProductID=131163


They are less than $300 each for students. That's a DAMN good deal! (I'm not promoting genesis-technologies, I just found them on Google when searching for prices)

So NOW the question is... What will you do with the other $1200? Get a dedicated PC for Video Editing?

I Second Cootdog , Vegas and combustion! Although I use adobe after effects for my composite work but combustion is just as good.


Toxzy

Avid Xpress DV is also good.

Avid's got a good rebate programing going till end of the month. $200 off of Avid Xpress DV which brings it down to $495. I just ordered mine! It includes the Windows and Mac version.

The best part is that there is an upgrade path to Xpress Pro, so if you decide to upgrade later, you're investment in Xpress DV doesn't go to waste.

I just had a chance to demo a Mojo system yesterday, and I have to say it is pretty awesome. As soon as I can justify it, I'm going to upgrade to one.

I just had a chance to demo a Mojo system yesterday, and I have to say it is pretty awesome. As soon as I can justify it, I'm going to upgrade to one.


Yes, my goal is to get a Mojo system too. I sent to a local demo of it and it is awesome.
BUT I'll have to get money for that and I need a PC upgrade first. :mope:

If you jump into the Mac world go FCP, it's worth the extra $. Now for PC I recommend, avid, or Vegas. But really it's all about what you like best. cause they all do the same things.

Get Final Cut Pro HD version 4.5 for $900.00 online. If you're a millionaire then get Avid.

Get Final Cut Pro HD version 4.5 for $900.00 online. If you're a millionaire then get Avid.

Don't we all want to be millionaires? Make it big on a production? I know I do, but also know it's a long way off. :D

I have

Power Director
Pinnacle Studio 9.0
Avid Xpress Pro v. 4.6

And this is good software indeed. If you want you can perhaps buy one from me, just contact me. Will be cheap then, I don't need that much of editing programs, need to start shooting first...

Greets Gotan

I was going through my campus bookstore the other day- they sell Apple's. They had Final Cut Pro 4 marked down to $300. I bought it right then and there. Later I found out that they made a mistake and accidentally were charging the wholesale price.

$300? For Final Cut Pro HD 4.5 ver.??? Damn! You saved about $630 + tax!

For anyone using Windows, Adobe is releasing Premier Elements in November... if you've ever seen Photoshop Elements, it's essentially a cheaper, scaled back version of Premier Pro. What FinalCut Express is to FinalCut Pro. And if Elements and FCE are any indication, it might be just what people are looking for. www.adobe.com has more info.

I was going through my campus bookstore the other day- they sell Apple's. They had Final Cut Pro 4 marked down to $300. I bought it right then and there. Later I found out that they made a mistake and accidentally were charging the wholesale price.

Was it the Academic Version or the Retail Version?

Sweet.. I'd just leave it sealed and resell it for full price (or just below full price) on ebay. ;)

Although.. I suppose if you have a mac, then you might wanna keep it.

Was it the Academic Version or the Retail Version?

It was the academic version which is identical to the retail version. In fact, the only difference is the splash screen and the box. I also got DVD Studio Pro 3 for $149!

Right, I'm defenitely going to hang on to FCP. It'll come in handy when my XL2 comes in next week.

Mmmm XL2 if only I had that kind of cash flow...

It was the academic version which is identical to the retail version. In fact, the only difference is the splash screen and the box.

Indeed they are the same, but I was told once....and I might of read this on indietalk... the real difference between the academic and retail version is that you're not supposed to be making a profit off the use of the academic version vs. the retail. The academic version is meant for purely educational means. Which if this is true, then it's a bunch of Crap in my opinion because students need more money than professionals sometimes.

Indeed they are the same, but I was told once....and I might of read this on indietalk... the real difference between the academic and retail version is that you're not supposed to be making a profit off the use of the academic version vs. the retail. The academic version is meant for purely educational means. Which if this is true, then it's a bunch of Crap in my opinion because students need more money than professionals sometimes.


Very true...