Morning everyone!

As you may be aware, I created a film by the name of INTERNATIONAL TREASURE.

Here is a trailer I made for INTERNATIONAL TREASURE. Would you please have a look and see if it carries your fancy?

View INTERNATIONAL TREASURE trailer (http://www.vimeo.com/2168437)

Hey,

I don't mean to be rude, Im just going to be bluntly honest because thats usually what film makers want. Well what I thought was that the comedy and type of film didn't appeal to me, but thats not important it's probably just me. The main point that I wanted to make was that I lost interest after about 50 seconds. The voice over was cool but...yeh anyway thats just me we shall see what other people have to say.

I have to agree with Anthony,

The voice over was cool, but the in-your-face funny thing, just wasn't appealing to me. But that is just my taste.

50 seconds? Now surely you have a longer attention span than that! :)

Hey thank you both for viewing! I appreciate it very much.

I think it would make a decent kids show if it was tightened up a lot. There's only so much you can cover up (or not cover up) by cheap special FX.

I think there are some ludicrous moments that look like fun.

But your audience certainly isn't teens or adults...your audience is for 10 and under.

ps. Ya...the VO was great. Where did you find that guy? That's the best production value you guys have. No offense.

Good luck.

That trailer was fucking AWESOME!!!! I'd love to see this. Looks terrible. And I mean that in the very best way. The tune at the end was hilarious. South African accents make me laugh (sorry?)

Thank you Meefer! Very glad you watched.

If you really would like to see this movie, I have meanwhile released it on DVD - please select NTSC for a U.S. Vendor on this page:

http://www.magicalworldmovies.com/internationaltreasure

i have to agree with the guys above, it's too long and goofy. You can make it funny, without making it so childish. The sound wasn't consistent.

Not sure who your audience was, but it doesn't make me want to watch it. I'm in the 20-30 age range.

The best thing about this trailer was the voice over

apart from that, I wasn't really impressed

The weird voice dubbing didnt really work for me. I'm sure it could be a funny joke (I hope it was), but it didnt tickle me

The acting left a lot to be desired and well ... I think the over all concept did too

lol

Thank you for taking the time to write all this.

But quit your whining and cheer up folks; people love this film!

lol

But quit your whining and cheer up folks; people love this film!

Really? People aside from your friends? How many screenings have you had, and what's the turnout for each one? Are you making a profit from the screenings? Are the screenings in actual theaters, or in self-made coffee house dealeos?

Have you received any reviews from screener DVD's you sent out? Any reviews in print? Any reviews on film websites?

I'm not at all being an asshole...I'm seriously wondering how you know if people love the film...or from your quote are you just being a part of the hype machine. I mean, you really can't take friend or family praises as the gospel truth. Friends and family will always sugar coat what they thought. Once you receive a few reviews in print or digitally from screeners...then you'll know what people think...

I'm not judging you...I totally respect what you've put into your piece. I've already made my comment about your video...

Thanks man.

Whookey I see what's going on here.

Dudes, this is INDIEtalk.com, right? Not HOLLYWOODMAJORStalk dot com.

We seem to think different about "independent film". You think it's competing with Hollywood. I think it's got nothing to do with Hollywood. It's an own initiative.

The difference in thinking here is you thought I was expecting unrealistically that this movie was the biggest thing since sliced bread and that it would make one million sales in the first week right?

No, it's my own initiative. Not copying any Hollywood way of working.

Thanks for watching anyway but if you think it's not for you, you're right.

Magic...dude...

We all know it's indie film. But indie film--when you're serious about it--must be handled the same was as 'big budget film.'

Just because we are making 'independent' titles, doesn't mean we should make shit. And just because we are making shit...errr...independent films, doesn't mean we shouldn't market our films. We need to market our films just as passionately as we shoot them.

If you want to 'realistically' claim to be able to kick out 100 titles in two years...well...I guess it's pointless to tell you how I feel about that plan. Regardless, you do realize that if you want to sell any of those '100' titles every two years, they are going to have to be good enough for people to want to buy them.

People have a hard enough time deciding whether to buy their favorite movie on Blueray...let alone throw down $5, $10, or $20 on a very low quality indie flick that looks like a backyard film, and has zero marketing involved.

On an average, independent filmmakers that know what they are doing, and try their hardest to create a good product, can only push out a feature a year. These same filmmakers may never sell more than 10 copies of this feature. Yet you plan to kick out 50 a year...and do what with them? Sell them? Put them online for free?

Are you interested in selling your films, or are you just making films to go online for viral viewing? Either way is fine by me...it really is...I respect either choice...as long as you don't pretend your goals aren't something they're not. Do you know what I mean?

This may be INDIEtalk...but many of us are still not only serious, experienced filmmakers...we are also trying to make a living doing what we love. And the only way to do that is with quality product...just because we are labeled 'indie' doesn't mean we should be any less quality than the big dogs. Being labeled 'indie' isn't a license to kick out shit. Not only do we want to make quality films that may be picked up, or give our name enough clout to work on bigger projects...we also don't want to kick out shit for the very reason of pride. We want to be proud of what we either distribute or upload.

That's all I'm saying. We all want to make GOOD films. For ourselves...and for the public. This community isn't any different because it's 'indie.'

Please do not take this personally. I'm only voicing my personal opinion. I think you should definitely go about doing what you're doing if it makes you happy.

So yeah, while you people think indie film is about futily imitating Hollywood and trying to make $40 million in opening week, I thought I'd approach indie filmmaking in a realistic fashion.

By what? Making 50 movies a year?

Sorry...I had to...I love this quote particularly.

Dude...please let's keep this convo light. Think of me as a friend, just busting your chops.

I think you should definitely go about doing what you're doing.

I will, thanks

Anyway thank you for writing all your comments but they're as useless to me as they are to you - can't use any for quotes or promotion or ideas for a next project or even for moral support for my own encouragement. All I "learned" from it is that you're not a supporter of the film so what do you think I can do with you now?

Not that I expected you to shove your opinion if it wasn't highly positive but now that I've explained you can see the result is exactly that: No use.


Well, you get out of things what you want to get out of them. If all you want is support, and you don't care to hear constructive criticism or insightful honesty...I'll keep my mouth shut next time.

Yes. All I want is support.

Yes Michael, it may be difficult for you to process and impossible to understand, but support is exactly what I'm looking for.

Bye stranger!

Yes Michael, it may be difficult for you to process and impossible to understand,
Bye stranger!

Such a nice guy...welcome to the boards.

I'd see it if I were very stoned. But other than that, I'm not so sure..

Such a nice guy...welcome to the boards.

Now he's gonna cry cuz after all his trashing, I called him a stranger :no:

Is there any reason all the trashers are basic people with a mere handful of posts; alternative accounts of yours perhaps? Just asking.

magicalcrapmovies.com is freaking hilarious. He posts his crappy trailer wanting feedback, and when he gets it, he tells them to quit whining. He mentioned making his sales to family and friends. Great way to make money, off friends & family. Yea, i'm sure they'll be honest and tell you your films suck *sarcasm*

It's an honest living

:)

bye now

haha I love it how M1chae1 ripped into magicmovies your right hemdroid it is hilarious but then agian I think that coming on do an Indie filmmaking site and bagging out Indie filmmakers isn't the smartest Idea

The voice over sounded top notch! The trailer was good but went on too long and then it becomes annoying. To me when a trailer goes on too far - I think 'get to the point already'.
I think the trailer would have been better if it had ended at the scene where the chest opens, the camera angles into the darkness to reveal whats inside but doesn't.
I thought it ended there but it went on.

The voice over sounded very Hollywood (like the guy that does it for most of the Hollywood biggies) and a sense of humour in his tone which made the movie sound like it was an Anna Farris movie or Wayans bros type humour...so thats good. But it did go on too long and you lose your audience...you want to make you audience WANT more not less.

Most important is when you ask for honest advice on something you will get it - good or bad. If all you want is good advice then you are only fooling yourself in the end.

haha I love it how M1chae1 ripped into magicmovies your right hemdroid it is hilarious but then agian I think that coming on do an Indie filmmaking site and bagging out Indie filmmakers isn't the smartest Idea

Hey, everyone...come on.

I didn't rip his film. Where did I do that? I was very diplomatic. This community is about sharing ideas, and asking for advice. We should be allowed to talk freely about projects...as long as we are constructive. I was never a dick.

I had more to say about his movie making strategy and marketing plans than his film...let's be clear about that.

:) I don't think I did anything wrong. And I think Magic became way too defensive and started making it personal. But hey...whatever.

Anthony: I think it's just the opposite...I think coming onto an indie film site and posting your movie without expecting some critisism or advice isn't the smartest idea. That's one of the reasons this forum is here. Am I wrong?

Anyway. I'm no troll. And I don't try and create drama. Let's move on.

Now he's gonna cry cuz after all his trashing, I called him a stranger :no:

Is there any reason all the trashers are basic people with a mere handful of posts; alternative accounts of yours perhaps? Just asking.

Just to be clear...look back at what I quoted you...that's the language I didn't like...not the 'stranger' bit. And honest, nearly ALL of your posts to me were hostile once I gave you my opinion.

And what does my post count matter? As if one's post count or membership status on these forums directly relates to their experience in film?

OK OK...sorry everyone. My last post on this thread I promise.

:)