shane82388
05-28-2009, 12:04 AM
birthday is coming up and i want to get my own camera. cheaper the better...basically whats my cheapest decent option that is possible to use a 35mm adapter with? cheap is the key word here...
suggestions please!
spankydoesfilm
05-28-2009, 12:34 AM
Not to promote the camera im selling (and ive always said this) Panasonics DVX A's and B's(anywhere from $1100-$3000 new) are great cameras to start with...they have everything you need, and are reliable.
also look at the Canon XL2 ($1500-3200ish new) ...you could look at the xl1, but it doesnt shoot 24p :(
stay away from the cheap camcorders as youll kick yourself later. also you could look into HD, but i dont know a lot about those cameras.
shane82388
05-28-2009, 01:01 AM
yeah i was looking for like less than half those prices then put the 35mm on there and it would be decent...originally i had planned to get something more expensive than that but i just cant seem to save that kind of dough without something coming up and foiling my saving plans...sick of waiting, want to start filming kind of thing... :(
directorik
05-28-2009, 03:20 AM
There are three things that are VERY important when getting a
camera:
Three CCD’s or CMOS
Manual controls for the iris, shutter, focus and white balance.
A microphone input.
The JVC GZ-HD7, the first of the JVC HDD cameras is now a little
over a year old and discontinued, but I’ve seen these on line for
as little as $800. A really nice Fujinon lens makes a huge
difference and full manual controls is important. Three 1/5’ 16:9
progressive scan CCD’s are pretty impressive for a camera in this
price range. It has manual controls, a mic input and an excellent
focus ring which is surprisingly rare on small cameras. It
records directly to a built in 60GB hard drive. The issue here is
the MPEG-2 compression (TOD). It’s not compatible with many NLE’s
so you’ll need to convert the TOD to QuickTime or AVI.
The GZ-HD6 can record 1080/60p through HDMI - pretty impressive.
The GZ-HD40 is a bit of a disappointment. I like that it records
using AVCHD compression which makes it compatible with most NLE’s
but it loses the important focus ring. And it’s so small.
The Panasonic HDC-SD100 uses a 3-CMOS array and records 1920 x
1080 video in the AVCHD format to SD and SDHC memory cards. I
like the ring on the lens that controls zoom, focus, white
balance, shutter speed, and iris and it actually has a viewfinder
in addition to the LCD screen. Very important it has both a mic
and headphone jack. I found it difficult to handle with all the
cables attached (mic, headphones and monitor) but it’s a camera
with all the basics.
The Panasonic HDC-HS300 is a fine camera. I got to use it in
January for a little test run shooting some behind the scenes
footage for a model shoot in Las Vegas. I likes the focus ring -
a great improvement over similar cameras. But I didn’t like the
touch screen controls. On the plus side it has the essentials -
headphone and mic jacks and manual control over all the basics. I
like that it uses the AVCHD format. There is a nice toggle switch
at the front of the lens for switching between the zoom and the
focus. It took just a few tries for me to master it.
Close is the Canon HV20. It’s an excellent camera. It records in
HDV (1080i) and 24p (60i), has a mic input and manual controls of
white balance and focus but it uses one 1/2.7” CMOS sensor rather
than 3 CCD’s. My only reservation is it’s so small the handling
is difficult.
The HV30 adds a 30f (Canon’s “frame mode”) in addition to 24p.
The Sony HDR-SR12 has a mic input and a good sized 120GB HDD. It
uses a 1/3” CMOS chip and like the Canon is really small. Because
of the input placement, the mic cable kept getting in my way. The
HR9 (which records to tape) is also a nice, very small, camera
with the essentials. Again the mic input is just below the lens
which is rather poor placement, in my opinion.
shane82388
05-28-2009, 03:01 PM
wow, good knowledge, thanks. looking into those right now.
what about the JVC GZ-HD3...? I've found some pretty good deals for that one locally and online...im pretty sure, judging by the picture link below, you can hook up a 35mm adapter to it no problem as well...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2691544647_02afe7fc3a.jpg?v=0
TelnetCarlos
05-29-2009, 02:40 AM
wow, good knowledge, thanks. looking into those right now.
what about the JVC GZ-HD3...? I've found some pretty good deals for that one locally and online...im pretty sure, judging by the picture link below, you can hook up a 35mm adapter to it no problem as well...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2691544647_02afe7fc3a.jpg?v=0
I saw the adapters that makes it transform into a "real" cinema cam. About how much more would it cost for those adapters in total? I also wanted to use my Cam for Family time activities.